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NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama Gains in Battlegrounds Ohio, Fla., Va.
Newsmax ^ | 13 Sep 2012 | Patrick Hobin

Posted on 09/13/2012 6:05:13 PM PDT by Publius804

The post-Labor Day, post-conventions polls show President Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney in the three key swing states of Florida, Ohio and Virginia, which ratchets up pressure on Romney to turn things around in the debates in October.

Obama is ahead of Romney by five points among likely voters, 49 percent to 44 percent, in both Florida and Virginia, and in Ohio, he has a seven-point lead, 50 percent to 43 percent, according to new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist polls.

“You’d rather be in Obama’s shoes than Romney’s in these three critical states,” said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, NBC News reported, adding that the leads are not “insurmountable.”

Things could change when the candidates face off at the first presidential debate on Oct. 3 in Denver.

Obama won the three states in 2008 and George W. Bush won them in 2004, according to NBC. Romney likely needs to capture at least two of the three battleground states to win the White House but Obama can reach 270 electoral votes by winning just one or two of these battlegrounds as long as he wins the other states considered to be in the Democrat column.

Miringoff noted that most voters in these battleground states have already made up their minds.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bs; clownpoll; election; gigopolling; junkpolling; obama; romney
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1 posted on 09/13/2012 6:05:19 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

consider the source......NBC, Nothing But Crap


2 posted on 09/13/2012 6:07:41 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Publius804

I stopped at NBC


3 posted on 09/13/2012 6:07:59 PM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: Publius804

Oversampled by Democrats +18.


4 posted on 09/13/2012 6:08:52 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: The Wizard
lol THIS IS ALL SO SICK AND DEMENTED. How can anyone believe he is ahead.
5 posted on 09/13/2012 6:09:41 PM PDT by angcat (ROMNEY/RYAN 2012)
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To: Publius804

Obama voters over-sampled by an average of +11 in these skewed polls, and they can only manage 5 to seven points? No. I’m not worried.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 6:09:52 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Publius804; windcliff
said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion

Are we sure that isn't supposed to be Marxist? I'm sure this is just another BS poll.

7 posted on 09/13/2012 6:10:42 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: DarthVader

Really? Wow...thanks for the insight


8 posted on 09/13/2012 6:10:53 PM PDT by Publius804 (Buckle up - with Obama at the controls it's gonna be a bumpy ride. God help us.)
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To: Viennacon

Is the ‘squishy middle’ of American politics so easily swayed by polls they’d support a candidate simply to be on the winning side?

Wages down, more Americans in poverty, food stamp nation, retreating overseas with horrible foreign policy.

How could any American support four more years of this nightmare? Unbelievable.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 6:11:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Publius804

I don’t believe it but I guess we’ll find out Nov. 6.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 6:12:15 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Publius804

Hopefully, Floridah, Ohio, and Virgina, after you guys re-elect 0zer0, we can have more dead, raped ambassdors, more stolen sensistive documents, less allies, nuclear war in the middle east.

Go ahead. Do it.


11 posted on 09/13/2012 6:12:17 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Publius804

It’s about to turn towards Romney after the Middle East foul up.


12 posted on 09/13/2012 6:12:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Publius804
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13 posted on 09/13/2012 6:12:47 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Publius804

Wonderful. We are going to have 4+ more years of this stumble bumb.


14 posted on 09/13/2012 6:14:37 PM PDT by oyez ( .Apparently The U.S. CONSTITUTION has been reduced to the consistency of quicksand.)
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To: Publius804

Take anything from NBC or any other big media poll with a grain of salt. There is lots of Dem oversampling going on and they trail the GOP & Conserv/Mod Indy group by a huge margin.


15 posted on 09/13/2012 6:14:37 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Publius804
Right. Even GE has pulled its head out of the trough and has begun to turn on Obama.
16 posted on 09/13/2012 6:14:37 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Publius804
I know they are excited about these numbers but it this relly necessary? Isn't the victory of Barack Obama a historical inevitability? Don't they know He will win because He is an unstoppable force of history?

And the Republican candidate - Mitt Romney! Can you imagine a more outrageous provocation of the proletariat than this capitalist running dog?

The wheel of history is turning!

17 posted on 09/13/2012 6:15:00 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Publius804
Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, NBC News reported, adding that the leads are not “insurmountable.”

Translation: I'd like to have a touch of credibility after November so I'm giving myself an "out"
18 posted on 09/13/2012 6:15:10 PM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (My world view is accurately expressed in the lyrics of " The Fightin' Side of Me")
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To: Publius804

These polls are oversampled Dem horseshit. It’s gonna be a closer election than we want it to be, but Obama is not ahead by 5% anywhere except in lost cause states(NY, CA, etc.).


19 posted on 09/13/2012 6:17:37 PM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: The Wizard

Won’t last, for those who are inclined, there is some good money to be made over @ intrade. com


20 posted on 09/13/2012 6:17:37 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: The Wizard

No Barack Criticism......


21 posted on 09/13/2012 6:19:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Publius804

Stinks to high heaven. These idiots are just building Obama up so they can feign outrage and say the election was stolen when Obama eats a crap sandwich in November.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 6:21:41 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: Publius804

A.) Oversampled Dems - especially in Ohio (D+10)
B.) Polled 9/9 - 9/11 - tail end of DNC Bounce and anniversary of 9/11 - huge benefit for Obama
C.) Polled BEFORE Middle East blew up.
D.) Obama can’t break 50 in any poll - despite A, B,& C.

Obama will lose in a landslide.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 6:21:46 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Publius804
Gee if Obama let's more diplomats get killed maybe Obamas poll numbers will surge more.
24 posted on 09/13/2012 6:22:35 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Publius804

Hugely over sampled democrats.

This is laughable.


25 posted on 09/13/2012 6:23:46 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Publius804

26 posted on 09/13/2012 6:25:44 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Publius804

Another Blivet Poll! :)


27 posted on 09/13/2012 6:25:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: DarthVader
Oversampled by Democrats +18.

Wow. Where did you see that? If you could link it, that would be very helpful.

28 posted on 09/13/2012 6:25:46 PM PDT by Radio Free Tuscaloosa (God Bless...America!! - Adm. Jeremiah Denton)
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To: funfan
Gee if Obama let's more diplomats get killed maybe Obamas poll numbers will surge more.

And if gas gets any higher (it's officially at $4 here in NH)... And if unemployment claims continue to soar...

It's utterly amazing to see the media prop this clown up (with a straight face) in the midst of this train wreck, domestically and internationally.

Brian Williams/NBC News actually teased these polls with "Is Obama's mojo too much for Romney?"
29 posted on 09/13/2012 6:27:31 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Publius804

Doesn’t Romney have to have all three of these states to win 270 electoral votes? Thre are so few surprises any more in presidential elections. The American people are as predictable as an old shoe.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 6:28:50 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: Publius804

Garbage poll, the Rasmussen poll shows no such movement in the states mentioned. This is more media “drive the political horse race story line” garbage polling


31 posted on 09/13/2012 6:29:38 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: nhwingut

Brian Williams arrogance is going to get shipwrecked on the hard rocks of reality.


32 posted on 09/13/2012 6:30:39 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Theodore R.

No this is just the usual garbage in garbage out media polling. The professional pollsters show no such dramatic movement in these states


33 posted on 09/13/2012 6:31:48 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: nhwingut

A.) Oversampled Dems - especially in Ohio (D+10)
B.) Polled 9/9 - 9/11 - tail end of DNC Bounce and anniversary of 9/11 - huge benefit for Obama
C.) Polled BEFORE Middle East blew up.
D.) Obama can’t break 50 in any poll - despite A, B,& C.

Obama will lose in a landslide.

23 posted on 09/13/2012 6:21:46 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)

In Ohio they also under sampled independent at only 10. I noticed this lately that now the Ind are leaning Romney they are not sampling them


34 posted on 09/13/2012 6:32:22 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Publius804

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(Better News in this story): Ohio Is Neck and Neck
Breitbart.com ^ | 13 Sep 2012 | William Bigelow

Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:21:29 PM by Publius804

Two new polls indicate that contrary to the media hype, Ohio is now a toss-up between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. The American Research poll, conducted between September 10-12, showed Obama ahead 47% to 46%. The latest Rasmussen poll shows exactly the same numbers.

There are positive subtexts for Romney in both polls. In the American Research poll, independents favored Romney by a whopping margin, 53% to 37%. This bodes well for Romney with those who remain undecided. In the Rasmussen poll, voters said they trusted Romney on the economy more, which will ultimately prove pivotal, but the biggest edge they gave Obama was, strangely enough, on issues of national security


35 posted on 09/13/2012 6:34:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Publius804
Who the heck would believe a single vowel from the National Barack Channel but a push poll.

What the hell happened to Newmax !

36 posted on 09/13/2012 6:34:14 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: I Drive Too Fast
Marist polling is one of the least accurate polling scams in the country .
Check their rankings !
37 posted on 09/13/2012 6:36:23 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Theodore R.
Not if he wins WI and MI. This poll is good news for one of them. His home state. Remember in 2010 Reps won, Gov, House and super majority in the Senate first time in many years.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19536310/presidential-poll-for-the-michigan-general-election

38 posted on 09/13/2012 6:36:54 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: nhwingut

I paid $4.35.9 for non ethanol Premium this moring in Mississippi.

LLS


39 posted on 09/13/2012 6:37:15 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Publius804

2008 Presidential Election

The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection
polls (as reported on pollster.com)

2008 Notice Marixst is number 15 and NBC is number 13 on the list. Worse then even Daily Kos, a Leftist propaganda website
.
1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23


40 posted on 09/13/2012 6:38:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Publius804

by five points among likely voters, 49 percent to 44 percent, in both Florida ...

LOL! here in Florida? No.


41 posted on 09/13/2012 6:40:53 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: nhwingut
Gas is $4.22 where I am in California. The media are scum
and traitor's don't watch them at all even Fox can't take it anymore. Drudge, Free Republic and talk radio only for me!
42 posted on 09/13/2012 6:40:58 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Publius804

Yo, Publius!: If you’re gonna post a poll then you should feel obligated to not only post links to the actual polls and the accompanying internals but try to post an article that actually has links to the poll(s)! Crap post from the start.

I’m weeding through the pdfs to look at the internals but at least in Florida I’ve seen a five point level of Dems polled while 30% are supposedly Indies. That makes it even at worst and plus Romney by 3 or 4 at best.


43 posted on 09/13/2012 6:43:09 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Calvin Coolidge - "Patriotism is looking out for yourself by looking out for your Country.")
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To: Publius804

Throw out Dems and GOP, just look at the sum of all independent likely voters, and we will have the best measure of the state of the electorate.


44 posted on 09/13/2012 6:43:44 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Publius804

I’ve mentioned this before, but I live in blue collar central that was strongly for Obama four years ago, and the tone has changed dramatically, with only the fringe kooks in his corner. I don’t buy these polls at all.


45 posted on 09/13/2012 6:44:02 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: LibLieSlayer

$4.56 here in CT for the same.


46 posted on 09/13/2012 6:44:49 PM PDT by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: NoobRep
Stinks to high heaven. These idiots are just building Obama up so they can feign outrage and say the election was stolen when Obama eats a crap sandwich in November.

Ding ding! We have a winner. Not only to play the "outraged card" but also to attempt to cripple Romney from the get-go.

47 posted on 09/13/2012 6:45:22 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Calvin Coolidge - "Patriotism is looking out for yourself by looking out for your Country.")
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To: Red Badger
No Barack Criticism......

Who would dare?


48 posted on 09/13/2012 6:46:52 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Radio Free Tuscaloosa

Had to do some looking. This poll over sampled Democrats by about +10%, under sample Republicans by -2%, and under sampled Independent by - %8 using Rasmussen’s party ID trends reported on Sept 1st.

NBC/WSJ/Marist Florida 2012 Presidential Poll

“Survey of 1,352 registered voters, including 980 likely voters, was conducted September 9-11, 2012. The margin of error is +/- 2.7 percentage points among registered voters; +/- 3.1 percentage points among likely voters. Party registration (among registered voters): 42% (43%) Democrat; 36% (35%) Republican; 22% (21%) Independent. Party registration (among likely voters): 41% Democrat; 38% Republican; 20% Independent. Ideology (among registered voters): 34% (34%) Moderate; 30% (29%) Conservative; 18% (19%) Liberal; 12% (12%) Very conservative; 6% (6%) Very liberal. Ideology (among likely voters): 33% Moderate; 31% Conservative; 18% Liberal; 13% Very conservative; 5% Very liberal.”

http://argojournal.blogspot.com/2012/09/poll-watch-nbc-newswall-street.html


49 posted on 09/13/2012 6:48:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Publius804

Because of his harsh words for the terrorists? /s


50 posted on 09/13/2012 6:50:44 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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