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There may be no anti-Islamic movie at all
CS Monitor ^ | 09-12-2012 | Dan Murphy

Posted on 09/14/2012 9:44:37 PM PDT by bronxville

[...]Now comes the part with the compelling case of no movie at all.

Abdurrahman writes (embedded link):

If you watch closely, you can see that when the actors are reading parts of the script that do not contain Islam-specific language, the audio from the sound stage is used (the audio that was recorded as the actors were simultaneously being filmed). But anytime the actors are referring to something specific to the religion (the Prophet Muhammed, the Quran, etc.) the audio recorded during filming is replaced with a poorly executed post-production dub. And if you look EVEN closer, you can see that the actors’ mouths are saying something other than what the dub is saying.

For example, at 2:53, the voiceover says “His name is Muhammed. And we can call him The Father Unknown.” In this case, the whole line is dubbed, and it appears the actor is actually saying, “His name is George (?). And we can call him The Father Unknown.” ...once you start to look for these dubs, it’s hard to see anything else.

And Grey writes (embedded link):

As the video above — cut from the YouTube video tied to a global controversy — shows, nearly all of the names in the movie's "trailer" — is a compilation of the most clumsily overdubbed moments from what is in reality an incoherent, haphazardly-edited set of scenes. Among the overdubbed words is "Mohammed," suggesting that the footage was taken from a film about something else entirely. The footage also suggests multiple video sources — there are obvious and jarring discrepancies among actors and locations... whoever made (it) may well have made use of little more than the standard editing software Final Cut Pro — far from a cast and crew of over 100 and millions of dollars. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0912/There-may-be-no-anti-Islamic-movie-at-all

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 9112012embassyattack; antiislamicmovie; guyfawkes; islammovie; islammoviemaker; islamriots; noislammovie; phoneymovie; voicesdubed
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"Both make very, very convincing points (read their full posts) and if you watch the footage carefully, it's hard to escape their conclusions. In one scene a man is apparently teaching his daughter about the evils of Islam and writes on a blackboard that "Man + X = BT" as he explains to her that "Man + X = Islamic terrorist." Then he writes the equation in reverse, again intoning "Islamic terrorist" as he writes "BT."

If suspicions are right, the low-quality footage has been re-purposed from somewhere, and you'd expect someone to come forward and explain soon (since a lot of actors are involved).

What's really going on here? I have no idea."

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0912/There-may-be-no-anti-Islamic-movie-at-all

1 posted on 09/14/2012 9:44:45 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

Well, I guess the obvious answer is a false flag operation to get the Islamic horde cover for their coordinated attacks on 9/11 anniversary.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 9:50:43 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: bronxville

If it doesn’t have talking cats and dogs or Hitler in the bunker in it, it shouldn’t even be on Youtube.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 9:52:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: ecomcon
Garcia said that there was a man who identified as "Bacile" on set, but that he was Egyptian and frequently spoke Arabic.
4 posted on 09/14/2012 9:55:26 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Obama is trying to sell a YouTube clip as a Wag the Dog movie.


5 posted on 09/14/2012 9:55:49 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: bronxville
Muslim world (in the voice of the immortal Rosanna Rosannadanna): Never mind.
6 posted on 09/14/2012 9:57:59 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: bronxville

It is double-plus ungood to question the Ministry of Truth...


7 posted on 09/14/2012 10:11:55 PM PDT by jonascord (Hot Flash: Your "government" is no longer mine.)
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To: D-fendr

Why is no one mentioning that some of the egyptian rioters were wearing guy fawkes masks and spraypainting occupy graffiti on our embassy walls?


8 posted on 09/14/2012 10:14:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: ecomcon

Is that the nonpracticing Coptic Christian who is/was in trouble with the law and spent $5 mil on an extremely crappy produced movie? I read where he had family over there, not sure why he’d want to make a movie in Arabic, knowing it was going to be shown over there, placing his family in danger, especially considering the crazy neighbors.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 10:14:12 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville

It’s interesting that they happened to find an actual Coptic Christian to blame.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 10:16:23 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville

I believe the whole thing is a set-up. But by who is the question to ask. We all ready know the why.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 10:19:57 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: FlingWingFlyer

LOL


12 posted on 09/14/2012 10:23:24 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: bronxville
0bama's newest release of Wag The Dog
13 posted on 09/14/2012 10:23:44 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: ecomcon; bronxville

How did these dirt-poor Libyans *see* this film....most of them earn $2./day...what? They all have iPhones? ‘Net connections?

They were stirred up by their immams at services. Aided and abetted by our very own president...leading from behind.


14 posted on 09/14/2012 10:23:55 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: ecomcon
Fast & Furious II.. No wonder why the DOJ/FBI are investigating this.. They want to silence those who KNOW that this movie was originally produced for other purposes and/or CHANGED by our CIA/NSA/DOD to cover for 0bama the moment a terror attack occurs so as to create a diversion and blame an American citizen instead of 0bama's STINKING pro-Muslim Brotherhood foreign policy.

After reading this article, I indeed call FALSE FLAG here.

15 posted on 09/14/2012 10:25:39 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: MestaMachine
no one mentioning that some of the egyptian rioters were wearing guy fawkes masks and spraypainting occupy graffiti on our embassy walls?

I saw that too. Meanwhile the MSM is focusing on Romney being the bad guy.

16 posted on 09/14/2012 10:43:19 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

My hope is the FBI is investigating so they can show that this “film” was changed by the muslims. If they’re investigating this because they want to “charge” the film maker with something such as inciting a riot, man, are we screwed.


17 posted on 09/14/2012 10:43:54 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: bronxville

This has all the hallmarks of a U.S. gov’t ‘cover story’ to protect 0bama.. Even the original author is FABRICATED TO BE AN ISRAELI to gin up heightened anger about the movie. Now we know this particular aspect isn’t true whatsoever. If 0bama’s goal is to create distrust in our gov’t, he’s doing a fine job of it.


18 posted on 09/14/2012 10:44:43 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: MestaMachine

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, Mesta.


19 posted on 09/14/2012 10:45:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: bronxville
Is that the nonpracticing Coptic Christian who is/was in trouble with the law and spent $5 mil on an extremely crappy produced movie? I read where he had family over there, not sure why he’d want to make a movie in Arabic, knowing it was going to be shown over there, placing his family in danger, especially considering the crazy neighbors.

And before that he was an Israeli Christian and just a few hours before that he was an Israeli Jew. The man is cutting a wide swath through life! /s

20 posted on 09/14/2012 10:47:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Terry Mross

You think it’s Muslims? I say it’s our government running cover for 0bama to point blame at an American citizen instead of 0bama or his friends, the MB, or even ‘terrorists’. The ‘War on Terror’ doesn’t exist, remember? Remember that ‘Fast & Furious’ op? Our gov’t did that too in an attempt to once again BLAME AMERICAN FIREARMS DEALERS for gun crimes. Hell, the ATF/FBI FORCED AMERICAN FIREARMS DEALERS TO SELL TO KNOWN BAD GUYS AGAINST THEIR OWN WILL.


21 posted on 09/14/2012 10:49:15 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Hassan al-Banna started the Muslim Brotherhood...the story is he helped orphans and widows but the back story tells a different story - his writings...

Hassan al-Banna: “It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated; to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet.”

Banna: “It is fard (obligatory) on us to fight with the enemies. The Imam must send a military expedition to the Dar-al-Harb every year at least once or twice, and the people must support him in this. If some of the people fulfil the obligation, the remainder are released from the obligation.”

We can expect a “military expedition” every year now that they’re in charge.

They hate our free speech which is why they’ve been pushing Resolution 16/18.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2931182/posts


22 posted on 09/14/2012 10:50:49 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Daffynition
They didn't actually see the movie they sort of heard about it. Through tweets. In Cairo. From the embassy.
23 posted on 09/14/2012 10:51:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

“And before that he was an Israeli Christian and just a few hours before that he was an Israeli Jew. The man is cutting a wide swath through life! /s”

I forgot about that... :)


24 posted on 09/14/2012 10:54:32 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: dragonblustar

No wonder Hillary was ‘away’ during the DNC convention. She was orchestrating all of this SH!T, fawkes masks and all. Notice how Libyan officials are saying this was a planned 9/11 attack AND THE U.S. IS SAYING THIS WAS RESPONSE TO A MOVIE. THAT should tell you something. It SHOULD be the other way around, no?


25 posted on 09/14/2012 10:55:14 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: bronxville

Yeah, and I left out the part where he was an Egyptian Coptic Christian after the stint in Israel and now he’s from California. It’s been a busy week for him. But his frequent flier miles came in handy. /s


26 posted on 09/14/2012 10:57:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: dragonblustar
"wearing guy fawkes masks and spray painting occupy graffiti on our embassy walls"

Weird. And they are doubling down on blaming the supposed Movie for the rioting.(Never mind the rioters keep mentioning OBL, not a movie).

What's going on here?

27 posted on 09/14/2012 10:58:59 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: bronxville
I feel like I just did a Ron White bit.
Suddenly I'm craving a cigar and a scotch.
I don't even drink scotch.
28 posted on 09/14/2012 10:59:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: MestaMachine; FARS; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

I heard a very interesting report on public radio this evening from a man (I think Jewish) who has lived in Egypt many years. He said the first day the demonstrators were Salafis (they had the tradition full beards and clothing) and these demonstrations were non-violent. They second day when things got really rough in Egypt the Salafis had slipped away and been replaced by violent extremist. They were dressed in T shirts and other student western style clothing. Then Morsi declared their behavior unacceptable and ordered police measures.


29 posted on 09/14/2012 11:01:03 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Pajamajan
In the interest of creating more confusion (or entertainment depending on our POV) I thought I'd just post this ...

CNN: Protests against film a ‘diversion. Attack was planned’

Egypt intelligence warns (on Sept 4th) of attacks on Israel, US embassies

Congress was warned about Libya last month

30 posted on 09/14/2012 11:02:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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Yes, that’s right. That last link says LAST MONTH!


31 posted on 09/14/2012 11:03:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

lol

Update on the movie maker:
http://www.breitbart.com/breitbart-tv


32 posted on 09/14/2012 11:05:44 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

It’s one or the other. Muslims or the white house and state department.


33 posted on 09/14/2012 11:06:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: YHAOS
D-fendr ~ Obama is trying to sell a YouTube clip as a Wag the Dog movie.

YHAOS ~ 0bama's newest release of Wag The Dog

His first production, Eat The Dog, wasn't a success...

34 posted on 09/14/2012 11:07:58 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1334 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: MestaMachine
Why is no one mentioning that some of the egyptian rioters were wearing guy fawkes masks and spraypainting occupy graffiti on our embassy walls?

Too busy trying to find a slam Romney angle.

35 posted on 09/14/2012 11:12:42 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: bronxville
I highly recommend re-reading my posts #20, #23, #26, #28, #30 and #31
while imagining Ron White saying it all as part of his routine.

And this one.

It's workin' fer me.

You'll "effin" love it!

Got a light, pal?


36 posted on 09/14/2012 11:16:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye
So... the movie, that nobody's seen, that caused the attacks- was made by an Israeli-Christian-Egyptian-Coptic-Christian-California Jew?

Side note: Greg Gutfeld of Fox News asked the question:
What movie caused them to attack us on 9/11?
He said "Titanic".

Maybe we should start a thread asking this question.

37 posted on 09/14/2012 11:17:27 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Pajamajan
What Movie caused them to attack us 9/11/2001?

Titanic?

(Just to make it clear)

38 posted on 09/14/2012 11:24:59 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Pajamajan
Well, I kind of touched on that here in answer to Jay "Sideshow" Carney's remarks today.

I think you basically have the gist of it with the additional information that the press is now standing by to direct jihadi traffic to his house for some good live shots of his final moments. What name, religion and ethnicity he'll go by then is anyone's guess.

I've got $10k riding on Intrade that Hillary will announce that the Zen Buddhist Eskimo anti-Muslim filmaker from Argentina has been murdered by a crowd of angry cholos from Encinitas and that she laughs and makes a joke about how hard the "Coalition" worked to see this through.

The odds are better than you might think. {;-!)

39 posted on 09/14/2012 11:33:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

...so we’re *told*...I’m confident that Baghdad Carney will fill us in tomorrow.


40 posted on 09/14/2012 11:38:15 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

Samuel Jackson, George Cloony and countless others that have his back came to mind.


41 posted on 09/14/2012 11:44:54 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (Someone please send the Loser in Chief a "President For Dummy's" book.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I am with you on this, the attack on our 2nd ammendment with F and F is failing and now Odinga and the Hilderbeast are proceeding to the 1st Amendment.

Tie these attacks on our embassy to 1st ammendment speech, locking down the internet and what they refer to right wing news outlets during the lame duck session.

Their back is to the wall on the election. Cause as much noise and confusion going into the lame duck session and all kinds of EOs/laws will be signed during the dark of night.


42 posted on 09/14/2012 11:46:46 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: bronxville
Has anyone else seen the trailer on you tube ?

I don't know how anyone found this and turned it into a justification for what we are going through right now. It is in English (Dude sounds like he's from California)and shot entirely on green screen. Even the sand is fake.

It has to be a set up. I usually don't give conspiracy theories any attention but there is NO way this "movie" is responsible.

Check it out.

43 posted on 09/14/2012 11:55:13 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: bronxville

I don’t believe the film exist at all. Not in the context being driven by Obama drooling media.

This whole thing is a put up.

How is the Fags in Hammurabi land know about this before we do?

It is suppose to be Anti-Islam. Why wouldn’t we know about it 1st and them somewhere near last.


44 posted on 09/14/2012 11:55:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: TigersEye
So do you think this is about that UN Resolution 16/18? Or maybe this is their latest attempt to shut everybody up- attack the First Amendment?

That would explain why Hillary keeps insisting on blaming the movie.

We sure do live in crazy times.

45 posted on 09/14/2012 11:58:19 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: gleeaikin

The live video fan had lots of those student-types. They also appeared to be stage managed.


46 posted on 09/15/2012 12:07:30 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Pajamajan
Oh, yeah! Check this out...

Muslim Brotherhood website demands that West criminalize ‘assaults’ on Islam

But do they really expect us to capitulate on that or is this just bait to suck us into more negotiations with them? We concede some more money, some more arms and some more Israeli land to them?

47 posted on 09/15/2012 12:08:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ArmstedFragg

“Feed”, not fan.


48 posted on 09/15/2012 12:08:35 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: bronxville

I’ve been reading Red Horizons, the story of Ceausescu’s time in Romania, and there’s quite a bit of game playing they were doing with the PLO as stooges. The Ruskies were also in on it. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them somehow involved in the fomenting of the riots.


49 posted on 09/15/2012 12:23:43 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: TigersEye
You know what's scary?
The left really doesn't get it.
It's right in front of them- what they've thrown in with,
but they don't see it.
They don't see it coming.

They don't even get it when their own people are butchered before their eyes.

Hillary referred to the ambassador as her friend.
He was murdered.
She's taking sides with the monsters who did it?
(apologize for hurting their feelings, blaming the supposed film, for whatever reason/scheme) If given 1/2 the chance- these demons would cut her head off, and use it as a soccer ball.

They've chosen sides with the devil.
They think they're going to control the devil.
It won't end well for them.

50 posted on 09/15/2012 1:12:44 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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