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Genetically modified foods: Why does California insist on finding a problem where nobody else does?
Hotair ^ | 09/15/2012 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 09/15/2012 6:08:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: goodnesswins

The article I cited and linked to bears close reading. By French scientists, it showed commendable logic and balance.


61 posted on 09/15/2012 9:26:21 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: JRandomFreeper
If the ingredients of the bullets are organic and certified free of pesticides it should be o.k. and only flesh wounds for noncompliance.
That way it would be voluntary, “They chose not to be shot”.
62 posted on 09/15/2012 9:28:58 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
If you want food companies to label food to your requirements, there is a better way than government, laws and men with guns.

If, of course, no one gives a rat's pointy little tail about your particular fetish...

Perhaps you could grow your own. ;)

/johnny

63 posted on 09/15/2012 9:36:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PieterCasparzen
I do not favor government regulation in general, but...

Ever the cry of the statist.

Your boy Mitt should make you happy.

/johnny

64 posted on 09/15/2012 9:40:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Rockingham

Ever read any of Dr. Jonathan Wrights stuff? He’s been talking about this....and he’s our doctor for certain things. When HE speaks, WE listen.


65 posted on 09/15/2012 9:41:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I just want free range Gourmet Cheese Whiz and to know what kind of plastic it's made from. Ummmmmm
66 posted on 09/15/2012 9:46:16 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Will88; All

Yes, what YOU said....this situation is very similar to the FDA where the big pharma companies run the system, and basically dictate WHICH drugs make it to market, and what their prices will be. This GMO controversy sounds similar....let the big company do tests and then market to consumers, but limit the tests, or don’t reveal ALL the facts.


67 posted on 09/15/2012 9:47:55 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: goodnesswins

Jonathan Wright is a fine doctor and I have his book. You are fortunate to have him as personal physician.


68 posted on 09/15/2012 9:56:56 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: count-your-change
I wasn't going to offer you a rind ripened soft ewe's cheese, or even a Port Salut.

I figured it might not go over well.

/johnny

69 posted on 09/15/2012 10:20:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: goodnesswins
"....there is reason for caution, especially when it’s BIG FOOD involved...."

A lot of Freepers are confusing Free Market Capitalism and Crony Capitalism. This issue is about the Crony Food industry. They pay for the studies, the lobbyists, and the politicians that tell us it is so safe to eat GMO that we should not even have it listed in the ingredients.

The GMO labeling issue is similar to MSG. I was talking to someone who sells "natural flavors" to the food industry. She said that she is required to disclose MSG content to her customers, so they know if it is there, but they can choose to call it "natural flavors" on the label because the FDA allows this. The food processors KNOW what is in the food, but they get political cover from disclosing it. The extra expense to add a GMO disclaimer to the label would be miniscule.

70 posted on 09/15/2012 10:46:49 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: SeekAndFind

Coast to CoastAM radio show of September12,’12 had guest the fellow working on the Calif ballot initiative to require GMO labelling. Lot of info there.

Another occasional guest they have is Dr Betty Martini who has extensively investigated the subject. A search on her name gives a list of things she is involved in.

She as well as other medical folk testify to first hand seeing patients improve and get well from any number of things when they take, for example aspartame, out of their diet, and also GMOs. Also testimony of animals who suffered various ailments got better when taken off GMO food. (Dog/cat food should be organic only to prevent...)

I am always shocked when I hear again of how terribly GMO things have affected farmers in India - the sickness, death of farm animals, and committing suicide etc - by the thousands.

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While you are at CtoCAM - the Sept11’12 show on Amelia Earhart - did you know she was alive for about 4 years - captured and her plane - blown up by - US ! believable


71 posted on 09/15/2012 11:01:37 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Thank you for telling us “natural flavors” on the label means MSG (ugh) ! Am adding that to my list of bad.

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I heard something recently about those roundup ready crops that they are developing a susceptibility to something they were supposed to be/were formerly immune from.

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(have you heard you can catch a virus, like HepB, from opening a box of something made and sealed up in China - from the air in the box that flows out at you !)


72 posted on 09/15/2012 11:20:30 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ewe’s cheese? If I have it then it’s mine not ewe’s and no need for a salute, you’re among friends here...mostly.

Say...does that cheese come in a spray can?


73 posted on 09/15/2012 11:27:17 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Surely it does, if you'll step over here, give that man your wallet, take off your pants, and bend over, I'll demonstrate the spray can.

Makes you almost feel sorry for the food fetishists... almost.

Nah...

/johnny

74 posted on 09/15/2012 11:34:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Can’t we just be friends?


75 posted on 09/16/2012 12:51:08 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: randog
Aren’t we all products of a genetic modification experiment performed by our parents?

Let's face it - they have totally trashed tomatoes. I grow some each year just to remember what a real tomatoe tastes like...

76 posted on 09/16/2012 3:59:52 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: chainsaw; SeekAndFind

Pepsi uses tissue from aborted babies to engineer taste sensors to design for specific tastes of their product.

That is how far the food companies are willing to go in their efforts. They are also quite willing to use the govt and courts to force their plans upon the people.

So GMO today is just a little more than anything done to food in years past.


77 posted on 09/16/2012 4:34:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: trebb

they have totally trashed tomatoes. I grow some each year just to remember what a real tomato tastes like...

My wife and I will not buy supermarket tomatoes. They taste like cardboard, and look worse.


78 posted on 09/16/2012 6:15:20 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: UnwashedPeasant

EXACTLY!


79 posted on 09/16/2012 7:28:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most damaging is the lack of ETHICS behind GMO seed patents and the enforcement of these patents.

There are serious problems with patenting genes of all types, human, plant, animal. These patents can indeed be a serious threat to organic farmers. If superbugs are generated, the organic farmers’ crops could be hit hard. Cross contamination of organic seeds with GMO seeds by wind, bees, or animals gives big agribusiness the right to sue innocent farmers for infringement/theft of their patented property.

Case in point:
Monsanto sued Percy Schmeiser in Canada for patent infringement of genetically modified canola seeds. . He claimed the GM crop had blown onto his farm or was spread by bees from neighboring farms, which use the Monsanto product. Although that has never been confirmed, Monsanto argued that the process by which that occurs is irrelevant: it is still patent infringement. Monsanto won, demanding Canadian $400,000 in damages.

The ethical question behind gene patents is not limited to agribusiness.

On May 12, 2009, the ACLU and the Public Patent Foundation at Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law (PUBPAT) filed a lawsuit charging that patents on two human genes associated with breast and ovarian cancer are unconstitutional and invalid.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has granted thousands of patents on human genetic sequences. While the purpose of the patent system is to encourage innovation, increasingly human gene patents appear to be inhibiting biomedical research and interfering with patient care.

For example, the Utah-based company Myriad Genetics has patented two genes - BRCA1 and BRCA2 - and certain mutations along these genes that have been associated with an increased risk of certain forms of breast and ovarian cancer. The high licensing and diagnostic testing fees charged by Myriad have forced some researchers to discontinue research on breast cancer and have prevented women from having access to screening for mutations.

In addition to inhibiting freedom of research, patents on human genes raise troubling questions about the right of patients to access information about themselves and whether parts of human beings should be patentable at all.

As a Conservative Christian, I am against gene patenting in any form (GMO’s etc.). Gene patenting gives ownership of “life” or DNA to corporate concerns. Our genetic makeup becomes an economic commodity and places humanity’s common heritage into private hands.

The US Declaration of Independence clearly states “We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” It doesn’t say “except for what Monsanto owns.” Corporations should not be allowed to take credit for, own, benefit, profit or prevent other’s from benefiting from something they did not create.

Those who are slamming the “hippies” and calling the fight for GMO labeling “liberal” do not have a proper understanding of the freedom at stake.


80 posted on 09/16/2012 11:32:25 AM PDT by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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