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Monckton: Obama crew 'existential threat' to U.S.
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Posted on 09/16/2012 12:07:13 AM PDT by tsowellfan

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To: nathanbedford

Excellent!


21 posted on 09/16/2012 1:40:24 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: papertyger
You speak from a perspective of realism which some might call defeatism or cynicism but while I concede you are probably right, I simply am not willing to give up the fight on behalf of our kids and our legacy.


22 posted on 09/16/2012 1:42:01 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Perhaps, as Romney has apparently concluded, the election campaign is not the time to repudiate, discredit, and piss on Obama’s legacy (and all the Dems he road in on). But if it is not done after Obama’s departure, we are screwed. If Romney is as polite to Obama as Bush was to Clinton, then the chances of real change are minimal.


23 posted on 09/16/2012 1:44:14 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: nathanbedford

I don’t believe in child laborious laws nor social security.

Churchill may have compared socialists to nazis after the war, but he was easily more upset by the loss of empire. A loss which he virtually ensured in “the finest hour.” That he fought tooth and nail. The Beveridge Report State his party was willing to meet almost all the way. But you know how it is with (relative) conservatives trying to outbid (relative) socialists.

Though a lifelong free trader, that is about all libertarians can claim in him. He was a Big Government guy his whole life.

The guy who gave the Iron Curtain speech is the same guy who helped hang that curtain. Not that he could have stopped it, after a certain point, but he didn’t have to help.

Churchill was hardly ahead of the curb in seeing the red coup as evil. We didn’t recognize them diplomatically until FDR. He may have been unique in wanting to go to war, but safe to say he was overfond of war.

His welfarism was not just rounding off the evils of the bated unrestrained market. It was importing Bismarkism, and that is the precise original cause of “sovereign debt crises” of today. Well, that or mass democracy itself. I don’t know.


24 posted on 09/16/2012 1:45:48 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Bullish
It's not R v D anymore.

It's ruling class v the ruled.

25 posted on 09/16/2012 1:46:22 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: nathanbedford

Mea Culpa, with much sorrow.

I have to confess I’m reduced to nothing more than fighting against that which offends my sensibilities. As for achieving a happy goal...I have no idea how, given the facts on the ground.


26 posted on 09/16/2012 1:50:50 AM PDT by papertyger
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for those that didn't read the WND article.

everyone will go on looking the other way, and Mr. Obama will get away with it. Whether the United States will get away with Mr. Obama is another matter altogether.

27 posted on 09/16/2012 1:54:43 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: AZLiberty
Very well said.


28 posted on 09/16/2012 1:54:59 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Gene Eric

the only way to defeat the entitlement mindset is to show that taking from the government "UNCOOL".....to make it look weak and unfashionable....Americans hate weakness


29 posted on 09/16/2012 1:56:54 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: The Wizard

UNCOOL with two Obama logos.


30 posted on 09/16/2012 2:00:25 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: fella

Churchill did want to fight Bolsheviks in the beginning, before it was his concern. He warned about their secretive empire after guaranteeing it to them by arbitrarily choosing nazis as the greater evil. The same nazis he helped put in power, and the same nazis he gained nothing by going to war with. Then not only did he let the commies he inexplicably favored over the nazis not only take Eastern Europe but physically helped them deal with various peaky civilians in their way. But after 50 short years of the National Security State they were gone, so woo-hoo.

“it was parliament that created the welfare state there just as it was Congress over here”

It wasn’t just Congress over here. President Wilson and FDR’s wartime powers carried an enormous load, and you can’t underestimate runaway executive orders. Then there’s the switch in time that saved nine. SCOTUS was a rubber stamp, but a rubber stamp that people unaccountably respect.

As for parliament, over there you must understand the executive branch grows out of the legislative. Not that it matters, because Churchill sat in both.


31 posted on 09/16/2012 2:01:50 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: The Wizard

I would think “no representation without taxation” would work, but how to achieve such a thing with the consent of the governed?


32 posted on 09/16/2012 2:03:33 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: rarestia

The Democrat Party is more “for the poor person”, don’tcha know? \s


33 posted on 09/16/2012 2:11:53 AM PDT by Twinkie (In whose eyes a vile person is contemned. Ps. 15:4a)
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To: nathanbedford

Agreed. It is also why Sarah Palin so stood out and was unacceptable to our GOP mandarins.


34 posted on 09/16/2012 2:53:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nathanbedford

In the parlance of marketing, you have summed up Mr. Romney’s approach to Obama perfectly. He fails by only addressing the ‘what?’ and the ‘how?’, both of them appeals to the analytical right side brain, instead of to the ‘why?’ which is a function of the emotional left side, or Limbic brain, where all decisions are made.

People rise to follow leaders not for what they say, but for what they believe; the “why?”.

In 1963, 250,000 people, black and white, gathered semi-spontaneously on the Mall in DC to hear Dr. King’s famous “I have a dream!” speech.

Do you think that they would have responded as they did had his speech been about how “I have a plan!!”?
Indeed, no.


35 posted on 09/16/2012 4:28:04 AM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: tsowellfan

When the government completely runs out of other people’s money, the wheels will fall off all the socialistic programs that have caused their downfall. Getting rid of Bernanke and his Monopoly money should be Job #1 if Romney is elected.


36 posted on 09/16/2012 4:31:03 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: tsowellfan

One word sums it up. CREW.
For those who do not know what a Crew is. It is a name for a group run by the Mafia.


37 posted on 09/16/2012 5:12:34 AM PDT by crz
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To: tsowellfan

“Socialism Is Legal Plunder”

“Above all, if you wish to be strong, begin by rooting out every particle of socialism that may have crept into your legislation. This will be no light task.”

Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.
DEPOPULATE socialists from the body politic.

live - free - republic


38 posted on 09/16/2012 5:34:35 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: tsowellfan
You now have a Socialist president, a Socialist administration, a Socialist Democrat party, Socialist governors and legislators in many states. These people – whatever they say – do not believe in the libertarian, democratic principles that your Constitution encapsulates. They hate it.

I remember them and more and more are talking about them -- even labeling them brats..

They were the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats who were celebrated in the establishment MSM as the most intelligent generation ever!. They are now arguably that very establishment that praised them and they hold themselves and their ideological issue in even higher regard.

They hijacked the now defunct Democratic Party in the 1970s. Abe will explain from "the other side."

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

Obama is a biological-ideological issue of the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats. It's just simple, plain old-fashion brattiness.

Another example.. take BJ Clinton.. please!

BJ gets Rhodes Scholarship.. the Clinton flak chuckers say he graduated and to this day people over there are still in awe.. off to the foreign press where nowadays for the past 20 or so years we can find news that our MSM spikes..

"Clinton never completed his degree [at Oxford]. . . . Many American Rhodes scholars treated their time at Oxford as a version of the Grand Tour. They had their degree and planned to go to law school when they returned to the US; Oxford was an interesting interlude." The Bill Clinton we knew at Oxford: Apart from smoking dope (and not inhaling), what else did he learn over here? College friends share their memories with Matthew Hoffman

The point.. what BJ learned over there explains some of the things Lord Monckton says is wrong here.

39 posted on 09/16/2012 6:05:49 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Tublecane
The Churchill who helped found Britain’s welfare state?

Churchill was the wartime leader...after the war the labor party (under Atlee) promised free health care for everyone....and won a sweeping parliament victory that enabled the left to implement their nationalization (coal, railways, electricity etc) and social programs including the NHS.

40 posted on 09/16/2012 7:46:52 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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