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President's Truth Team Bashes '2016: Obama's America;' Filmmaker D'Souza Responds
Christian Post ^ | 09/13/2012 | Alex Murashko

Posted on 09/16/2012 5:06:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Mortrey

You know I am so positively worked up over these tow films, “2016: Obama’s America” and “Last Ounce of Courage”, I an going to e-mail Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, and...many more TV & Radio Talk Hosts.....telling them to get on this right away and play up these flicks big time. You also gave me another excellent idea, contacting church groups, which, now, I will also undertake.

I am however, only one person. Could use some help from “our’ grass roots kindred spirits. Jim Robinson, can you help in any small way...and trumpart the causes of these two excellent movies.


41 posted on 09/17/2012 2:41:02 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Twinkie; wideminded
Uh. ‘Scuse me. “Dreams From My Father” was a book written by Obama.

Don't waste your time on this person. I suspect that "wideminded" is possibly one of those whose mind is so opened so wide that it lets in Dim spin. Read his/her posts: wideminded's posts

The comments are primarily "corrections" of conservative thought. Doesn't usually respond to direct posts. In other words, a concern troll.

42 posted on 09/17/2012 4:34:25 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: elcid1970

-— Nothing in that flick which isn’t the cold, hard truth. If Obama sends his flying monkeys after Dinesh D’Souza, he’s even stupider & more arrogant than we even thought.-—

He’s more stupid and arrogant than I thought, four years ago. I knew he was a commie. But his childishness is breathtaking.

His attack is giving the movie a second life. But he’s so upset by anyone contradicting him that he can’t act in his own interest by keeping his mouth shut.


43 posted on 09/17/2012 5:24:11 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

If Odumbo is reelcted, we can blame the media and school-propagandized youth. If, thanks be to God, we pull out this election, we need to revolt against these institutions.


44 posted on 09/17/2012 5:31:43 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: arasina; Revolting cat!; Twinkie; haroldeveryman
What do you mean? Have you seen the movie yet? (I haven't.)

D'Souza has a theory that a major way to understand Obama is by assuming that he is channeling his father's anti-colonial feelings. This doesn't make any sense to me since Obama apparently only spent a few days with his father in his entire life. Even most people who get to spend a lot of time with their parents do not end up thinking exactly like them. It just seems to me that this is the type of provocative but big-stretch idea that academics sometimes like to engage in.

I haven't seen the movie nor read "Root of Obama's Rage". I have heard D'Souza speaking on C-SPAN on multiple occasions. I do agree with some of the things he says.

‘Scuse me. “Dreams From My Father” was a book written by Obama.

If "Dreams from My Father" was about his father's dreams, you would have a major point. But as I recall, it is not.

In fact, DeSouza shows that Obama has taken on the psychological burden that his father created as a sort of life’s tribute to a father that was based on the rage and hatred of the typical paranoid Marxist.

Doesn't that sound like one of those convoluted psychiatric theories that ultimately don't make sense?

45 posted on 09/17/2012 10:33:18 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

I haven’t read the book and haven’t seen the movie, although I have read D’Souza essays on the subject, so I think I know his thesis, and I ask why not take Obama at his word when he says as clear as can be: “Dreams From My Father”? And is it about his father’s dreams or as other reviewers interpreted it, his dreams?


46 posted on 09/17/2012 11:32:46 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: arasina; Twinkie
Don't waste your time on this person. .. Read his/her posts: wideminded's posts ...

The comments are primarily "corrections" of conservative thought.

Looking back through my posts for which you kindly posted a link, I agree that I do often post with corrections (although that is not all I post). But I never correct people's thoughts, only factual misstatements. And it hardly ever happens that someone says that the corrected fact I have presented is wrong, because I do research on the things that I post.

I recognize that correcting people can sometimes be an annoying trait, although I try to be polite. And maybe I do sometimes get a little bit of sick pleasure out of having a hunch that something is wrong and then proving that I am correct.

One the other hand I feel that "conservative thought" can stand on its own. It shouldn't be necessary to support it with misinformation. I am not a person who feels that it is OK to lie about something in support of a greater cause except perhaps in very limited extreme circumstances.

Doesn't usually respond to direct posts.

I usually respond to direct posts although sometimes I don't immediately have time to do so, and when I finally do, it's not clear that it is worth continuing a discussion from days earlier. I'm not on here as much any more.

I tried to find out if you (arasina) had posted me and I didn't respond. I couldn't find one of these posts but if you remind me about it I'll answer you.

47 posted on 09/17/2012 11:46:49 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Revolting cat!
I have read Obama's book, although it was several years ago. It definitely was not about his father's dreams or way of thinking nor did it seem to contain any "rage". It just had some autobiographical stories. Having read this I have always just assumed that the "Dreams" referred to Obama's dreams about his father whom he had never had a chance to know. Maybe there is more to the use of the word "From" in the title but I didn't see it.

Which is more likely: that a child abandoned by his father will sometimes dream about or imagine him; or that the child will somehow totally absorb the father's way of thinking, which he has no way of knowing?

48 posted on 09/17/2012 12:09:20 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Stanley Ann kept Obama Sr’s. memory and theories alive for Obama (Li’l. Jr.). His father was a hero in his mind, just as all children want their parents to be heroes. They were her theories, too. She kicked Soetoro to the curb when he wouldn’t go along with her anarchist theories. Obama’s behavior toward our allies (Gr. Britain) has been embarrassing; he could wish for a day when he was worth Winston Churchill’s little finger! His kowtowing to the Muslims has resulted in them seeing him as WEAK - he IS - and in this disastrous current situation. - By his fruits, I know him well enough that I’m not voting for him, never voted for him, never shall vote for him.


49 posted on 09/17/2012 1:17:06 PM PDT by Twinkie (In whose eyes a vile person is contemned. Ps. 15:4a)
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To: arasina

At this point, my patience with giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, given the abuses of power and privilege he and Michelle have engaged in, is long ago at an end. DeSouza’s explanation of Obama’s actions which have resulted in the “Arab Spring” that has turned the Middle East over to the Muslim Brotherhood seem entirely plausible to me. Even if that’s not the explanation for Obama; something not so good IS the explanation for Obama - and I’m not content to twiddle my thumbs waiting for Wideminded to go along with it. DeSouza’s explanation is, I’d wager, certainly at least as plausible as Wideminded’s explanation.


50 posted on 09/17/2012 1:34:56 PM PDT by Twinkie (In whose eyes a vile person is contemned. Ps. 15:4a)
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To: wideminded; Twinkie; haroldeveryman; Revolting cat!
I recognize that correcting people can sometimes be an annoying trait, although I try to be polite. And maybe I do sometimes get a little bit of sick pleasure out of having a hunch that something is wrong and then proving that I am correct.

One the other hand I feel that "conservative thought" can stand on its own. It shouldn't be necessary to support it with misinformation. I am not a person who feels that it is OK to lie about something in support of a greater cause except perhaps in very limited extreme circumstances

Do you put forth as much effort when it comes to "liberal thought"? How many of their lies do you refute? Were the circumstances in the killing of Ambassador Stevens "extreme enough" for the "greater cause" that you believe it is acceptable for this administration to lie to the American people?

You may be polite, but you're condescendingly so. I get a whiff of Eau de Obama in your posts.

51 posted on 09/17/2012 3:39:56 PM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Twinkie

Yes, you nailed it. The point isn’t that his father indoctrinated him but rather that he was indoctrinated by his mother and her family because they were big time commies who thought his father the polygamist revolutionary was a pretty cool dude.

The movie does an incredible job of using Obama’s own words and his family history to explain who he is.

I thought I knew all this before seeing the movie, but the movie taught me some new things and brought it all home very well. Get your friends to the theatres to see this thing.


52 posted on 09/17/2012 4:31:00 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: arasina
Do you put forth as much effort when it comes to "liberal thought"? How many of their lies do you refute?

Believe it or not I have never posted on a website devoted to liberal politics. I have commented in places where there are a lot of liberals and there I have also corrected factual errors as well as defended and explained conservative positions.

Were the circumstances in the killing of Ambassador Stevens "extreme enough" for the "greater cause" that you believe it is acceptable for this administration to lie to the American people?

I haven't followed every detail of this but as far as I can tell the exact circumstances are not yet clear. There could be some big smoking gun lie which has come out that I just haven't heard about.

Just focusing on the rape claims that were made on this website, it appeared to me that the initial reports of this were just guesses based on one picture. If this did happen it wouldn't surprise me at all, but let's say that the administration knew it all along. Not leading with that aspect of the story could be interpreted as respect for the deceased.

Someone once said that the job of an ambassador is to lie for his country. So maybe it follows that the State Department has this job as well. And of course a presidential spokesman will at least lie by omission. I would not want that type of job because I think it is in general bad to lie. When I spoke of special extreme circumstances I was thinking more of life and death not mere CYA.

I also don't think that it is OK to lie just because the other side does so.

53 posted on 09/17/2012 7:33:03 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded
I haven't followed every detail of this but as far as I can tell the exact circumstances are not yet clear. There could be some big smoking gun lie which has come out that I just haven't heard about.

Evidently you are a ruminator of the third degree.

Sometimes what you see as your greatest strength (being "wideminded") can actually be your biggest weakness.

54 posted on 09/18/2012 5:16:32 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: wideminded

Dreams FROM his father, from the man’s own mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsobm33ATC0

D’Souza wins, I’m afraid.


55 posted on 09/19/2012 6:28:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: wideminded
D'Souza has a theory that a major way to understand Obama is by assuming that he is channeling his father's anti-colonial feelings.

I think he is channeling his mother's Communist feelings.

56 posted on 10/17/2012 10:31:49 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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