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African-American Christians waver over vote - struggle with gay marriage and the Mormon religion
Houston Chronicle ^ | September 16, 2012

Posted on 09/17/2012 1:44:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Mr. Silverback

Lieberman is Jewish.

Bishop Romney is a leader within a cult founded to mimic Christianity while destroying it and leading Christians to believe that they can become Gods.


41 posted on 09/17/2012 9:41:31 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ArrogantBustard

You are correct, of course. I should have dropped the ‘intelligent’ :)

Politicians who pander to ‘victim ethnic’ groups do all Americans a disservice.

I suppose it is simply impractical to separate and pander to ‘white’ Americans as Poles, Germans, Anglos, French etc., Perhaps because we are Americans first.


42 posted on 09/17/2012 9:50:28 AM PDT by sodpoodle
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To: Mr. Silverback

You have hit upon something there.

Also, the reality is that Christians (that is, believers in Christ) rarely ever have a voting choice between a Christian candidate and non-Christian candidate—it’s never presented in that way, of course. In my 45+ years of voting for any level of office, it’s usually a choice of the “lesser of the two evils.”

For the first time in my voting experience, we in Texas have elected two professing Christians, Bill Flores and Ted Cruz, to public office in significant positions of leadership. It follows that they are Conservatives and moral men. Not only that, they are qualified for the offices to which they were elected. And best of all, they have the blessing of being able to seek and receive wisdom from God, who knows all, sees all, and rules over the heavens, earth, and realm of mankind—something mere moral men (and women) do not have.

There are others elected who do not believe in Jesus, but who are moral men, in the sense that they are against immoral acts that are condemned by God in His Word and historic Judeo-Christian ethics. They would be against homosexuality and abortion. These issues are important to moral people who have the privelege to vote. Beyond that, there are many other issues that are important, but these do seem to be the most prevalent because of the grace of God, and not because we are still a moral society.

I am afraid that since we as a nation have turned our backs on God, that we have become an apathetic people and have reached the point of no return.


43 posted on 09/17/2012 10:45:02 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: ansel12

Lieberman is a person who won’t use public transportation on a Saturday but votes to keep abortion legal.

He is also a person who denies Jesus was the Messiah, and though you may think that’s not as bad as thinking Jesus is the Messiah but thinking other things about him that are weird, we’re in angels dancing on the head of a pin territory here.

The choice this year is between a man who has been faithful and even exemplary in all the things we and Mormons agree on, and a man who is the first gay president and is actively hostile toward freedom of religion.


44 posted on 09/17/2012 11:15:46 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I walk forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

LOL, you expect Christians to accept Judaism and Mormonism as the same in relation to Christianity? What planet do you live on?

Your cult leader, teacher, missionary, Christian hating whack case who thinks that he is destined to become equal to God, and that he will have his own planet to rule over, and worshipers calling him God and praying to him, is also pro-abortion, and pro-homosexual agenda.

It is amazing (and revealing) that you are using a lifelong democrat liberal and democrat vice-presidential nominee, and recent independent, who has never been a republican, to compare with your republican presidential nominee.

If you know a lot about Mitt Romney and his character, then can you tell us if at this moment (today, right now), is Mitt pro-life, or pro-abortion?

Does Mitt support the GOP party platform on abortion?


45 posted on 09/17/2012 11:43:05 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
LOL, you expect Christians to accept Judaism and Mormonism as the same in relation to Christianity?

No, I expect Christians, when given a choice between a successful CEO from a non-Christian religion and a Marxist clown who claims to be a Christian, to choose the guy who isn't a Marxist. That's all.

It is amazing (and revealing) that you are using a lifelong democrat liberal and democrat vice-presidential nominee, and recent independent,

I was comparing two non-Christians to each other on the basis of how a reliably liberal voting base would respond to them, and I was pointing out that said liberal voting base would support the non-Christian Dem and reject the non-Christian Republican. they would do so if our candidate was Lincoln Chaffee, they would do so if our candidate was Jeff Sessions. Look, if you hate Mitt, hate Mitt, but don't beclown yourself by making me out to be a lib. That dog won't hunt.

46 posted on 09/17/2012 11:58:37 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I walk forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie.)
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The good old liberal word “hate”.

Black Christians, all Christians are correct to question voting for an anti-Christian cult leader, who first requested permission from the Cult’s ultimate leader before running for president.

If you know a lot about Mitt Romney and his character, then can you tell us if at this moment (today, right now), is Mitt pro-life, or pro-abortion?

Does Mitt support the GOP party platform on abortion?


47 posted on 09/17/2012 12:14:40 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

What will Mormonism require Mitt Romney to do as President that you find objectionable?


48 posted on 09/17/2012 12:19:40 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

There is nothing bigoted about Christians being against the anti-Christian cult of Mormonism.

You can quit attacking Christianity.

If you want to promote Mormonism just do it openly, don’t try this back door approach of going after Christians and Christianity.


49 posted on 09/17/2012 12:24:36 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

For this group, any reference to “Mormon” is simply a diversion.

They’re trying to decide whether to “support the black guy” or follow Christ’s clear teachings.


50 posted on 09/17/2012 12:26:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: ansel12

Just so we’re clear, when I refuse a second time to answer your question, it’s not because I can’t, it’s because you’re sounding like a total whackjob and your activities on this site are assisting a faux Christian Marxist who pushes homosexual behavior.

Needless to say, I’m not helping you do that.


51 posted on 09/17/2012 12:27:17 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I walk forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Bull, you don’t know what Mitt Romney’s abortion position is.

It sounds like you don’t even know his homosexual agenda.


52 posted on 09/17/2012 12:40:28 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I’m not helping you help a Marxist. Jump in a lake.


53 posted on 09/17/2012 3:22:00 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I walk forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Yeah, don’t feel bad, nobody seems able to tell us his abortion position.


54 posted on 09/17/2012 3:27:38 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

What will Mormonism require Mitt Romney to do as President that you find objectionable?


55 posted on 09/17/2012 4:00:49 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Go ask someone that cares.

In the mean time, lay off Christianity.


56 posted on 09/17/2012 4:21:32 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Good luck helping Senator Soiled Utility Room win the election. That should help the pro-life cause.


57 posted on 09/17/2012 4:29:23 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I walk forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Great response, very serious stuff.


58 posted on 09/17/2012 4:35:15 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Oh, you mean you don’t know why I call him Senator Soiled Utility Room? You think that’s a joke? The kids who died slowly in a soiled utility room know better.

Born Alive Act. Christ Hospital. Look it up.

Heck, I’ll save you the trouble:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stanek

Like I said, have fun helping him win the election...a great help to the pro-life cause, I’m sure.


59 posted on 09/17/2012 4:42:18 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I walk forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I was mocking your childish posting style.

By the way, are you under the impression that the man you are voting for is pro-life, or that he supports the GOP platform?

During the campaign he was telling you that he believed that life began at conception, and that he supported outlawing all abortion.

What is his position today?


60 posted on 09/17/2012 4:48:18 PM PDT by ansel12
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