Posted on 09/17/2012 9:51:58 AM PDT by lowbridge
I’m not sure how you took what I wrote as a defense. Or how my words have such power over you.
On the issue of playing in the street, I pointed out that it is likely ILLEGAL for children to play in the street. I didn’t even give my opinion as to whether it should be illegal.
The closest thing I came to “defending” anything was to point out that, from a safety perspective, it would make sense to not allow children to play in the street. Streets are for cars, which are easily able to kill children. And children are killed by them. Yes, 200 million might have grown up safely. Because the ones that were killed didn’t grow up.
But my kids played in the street. I played in the street. People have basketball hoops in the street. It’s a fact of life.
There are many laws that are available to use if people get out of hand, that are ignored for the most part.
Let’s play a game. Let’s decide that you are “right”, and that kids have a right to play in the street. So a car comes, and the kids don’t move. How do we get past them? If the police come, what law would they use to make the kids stop playing basketball so you can drive by?
Would you simply drive slowly forward, hoping to win chicken? Do you think there is a law that says “children can play in the street, but cars have the right of way, after they first stop and politely ask the children to move”?
My point is that laws exist to govern when they are needed. And it would make sense to have a law that says the streets are for transportation, not play. And we can ignore that law, but if there is a reason we have to act, like if people aren’t letting cars drive by, we can enforce the law.
Now, let’s see what a real defense of the police might look like. As I said, we only have what this woman is saying. You have absolutely no evidence. So, suppose that this was the 8th time the police were called. Suppose there was a report of a car nearly running over the 6-year-old when the 6-year-old drove a tiny scooter out from behind a parked car and right into the street a few feet from the moving car.
Suppose the police have spoken to this woman, and told her she can’t have kids in the street, and she has ignored the warnings.
Suppose on this day the neighbor was backing out of her driveway, and the kids drove right behind her car and she nearly hit them. Suppose she then looked around, and couldn’t find the mother anywhere.
And suppose when the police questioned the mother, she admitted that she had gone inside for 10 minutes and left the kids in the street.
At what point do you think the government has a right to intervene to protect children? Should the 6-year-old be allowed to drive motorized vehicles unsupervised in the street through traffic?
Like I said, I’m not defending the police arrest. I have no idea what the facts are. I’m on record as a strong opponent of the CPS, and took constant flak for it here at FR during the FLDS compound raid discussions, where the CPS was widely seen as the savior of children everywhere.
So I would suggest you not presume to know what my opinions are on the arrest, unless I actually state my opinions.
If you want to argue against my hypotheticals, feel free.
If you think you can argue that my actual points in my post were wrong, go ahead and try — but stick to what I said, not what you devine was my intention.
I doubt you can make a valid argument that we know the facts in this matter, based on a news report that provides only the mother’s spoken side of the story when she’s filing a lawsuit.
I let my kids run as free as I could, because that’s how I grew up. I have the luxury of living in a save neighborhood with little traffic. The kids played in the street, rode bikes around the neighborhood. They walked through the woods, played in the stream. I’m sure they did all sorts of things I don’t know about, and some of them were probably illegal in some way — I know I did growing up.
I think government forces a sheltered life upon us, as part of the philosophy that we are all idiots that have to be protected from ourselves. As witnessed by New York City banning me from buying a 20-oz soft drink.
There is a great difference between your American culture and my American culture.
But then, you two are too culturally “unbred” (new word) to understand...lack of respect for those who live around you since the world revolves around just you. Loud noises like motorbikes, music, TVs, radios, loud parties (drunk comes to mind), screaming, yelling, fights, are not acceptable once these noises cross one’s personal property line.
I bet you would call the police if a neighbor put a TV up against your property line and left it on full blast for a few days. And just because the neighbors have not called the police on you does not mean they don’t care. Maybe they are a tad more civilized than you and will take it for a while longer. That is how it works among civilized folks. They are being polite, and you are taking them for a bunch of weaklings because of their politeness. That is what the leftist mistakenly do.
By the way, states do have laws against unnecessary noise.
The woman who complained about the noise could not take the noise anymore, and I don’t blame her.
Good for her.
Grow up.
Don’t lecture me.
You’re nowhere near my pay grade, Philistine.
“You’re nowhere near my pay grade, Philistine.”
LOL!!!
You would be shocked!!!!!
You are both plebians compared to me. Read ‘em and weep, thou impovrished worms!
(oh, and I spelled impoverished wrong on purpose, because I knew you couldn’t afford the extra vowl.)
Mine's got me!
Laz, you made my day....
Whenever I see two good posters foodfighting I like to piss them BOTH off at me, so they forget their war. :)
Just getting to this thread and read through it and saw your posts.
You are one angry guy.
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The neighbor should be sued to the pint of living under the Fred Hartman bridge. And while the lawsuit is progressing, the entire neighborhood should give a good shunning.
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