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Interesting.
1 posted on 09/19/2012 8:30:26 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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Zimmerman's DNA also was identified on the gun's holster, but no determination could be made as to whether Martin's DNA was on the gun's holster, according to the report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

This is BS! Why could "No Determination" be made? What does that mean?

2 posted on 09/19/2012 8:34:09 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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Yes , interesting, but may only be selective (source is AssPress). Did they test any /residuals remains found on the slide or barrel?

IIRC, some FReepers have postulated that M had his hand(s) on the slide and the weapon did not cycle. That would explain the “as found” empty chamber.


3 posted on 09/19/2012 8:34:24 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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So he could have been reaching for the gun; we don’t know. What we do know is Zimmerman can claim self-defense from the beating he was taking anyway. That is, with evudence of his injuries and lacking contrary evidence about who started the fight or at what point the decision to shoot was made.


4 posted on 09/19/2012 8:40:14 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Did Zimmerman claim he touched the gun?


5 posted on 09/19/2012 8:41:34 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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6 posted on 09/19/2012 8:42:35 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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And I’m sure they only found Zimmerman’s DNA through blood samples in the grass and sidewalk where Martin had been using Z’s head as a basketball.


7 posted on 09/19/2012 8:43:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Not interesting. Zimmermann's version of events is that Martin was banging his head into the pavement and that he drew his weapon in self-defense and shot Martin.

Zimmermann's version does not entail Martin grabbing the weapon or a struggle for the weapon.

Zimmermann is not saying: "We struggled over the weapon and it accidentally went off, I didn't mean to shoot him." He is saying: "I shot him in self-defense."

11 posted on 09/19/2012 8:51:58 AM PDT by wideawake
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That's important because Zimmerman told police he opened fire only after the teenager reached for the gun that Zimmerman wore in a holster on his waist. The DNA findings suggest there's no evidence that Travyon touched the gun.

He said that he "reached" for his gun. He never said that he "touched" it.

13 posted on 09/19/2012 8:53:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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So if I pick up and handle something hundreds of times, and someone else only touches it (or grabs for it) once,....

It is shocking that only my DNA is found on the item.

Hmmmm.... Sounds like MSM logic to me.


14 posted on 09/19/2012 8:54:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To my knowledge Zim never said Tre touched the gun or holster so the findings are consistent with Zim’s testimony but largely irrelevent.


17 posted on 09/19/2012 8:57:30 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The left wants to discredit capitalism so that people will accept marxism.)
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This is typical law enforcement BS. If Zimmerman had the gun in hand on the grip to shoot how in the hell would that prove anything. Was Martin’s prints on the rest of the gun? Does America has the dumbest law enforcement in the world or was this info provided to the MSM just for the fun of it.


19 posted on 09/19/2012 9:00:42 AM PDT by Logical me
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Did they find Martin’s DNA on Zimmerman’s head where Martin was slamming said head into the pavement?


22 posted on 09/19/2012 9:03:40 AM PDT by donna (Chick-news: They report on what they love (Obama and movie stars and themselves).)
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I have apparently missed the point of the story.

They found the owner of the weapon and holster’s DNA on the weapon and holster. The owner (GZ) said they were his and that he used them to shoot the attacker.

Did they check the gun and holster for Nancy Pelosi’s DNA too? What are they trying to tell us? That the attacker never touched the gun or the holster? Did someone suggest Martin had?


29 posted on 09/19/2012 9:15:19 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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APObama and YahooObama are simply polluting the potential jury pool, or barring that, spinning up public outrage over Saint Skittles, with the end result being the Stand Your Ground Law and the Castle Doctrine get overturned, providing court precedent to get these laws overturned in other states and therefore gutting the 2nd Amendment without the mess of a Constitutional Convention.

And that’s all there ever is, or was, to this case.

If there are feral black race riots nationwide as a result of the trial, that’s a twofer.


30 posted on 09/19/2012 9:22:27 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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The significance of all this is that when in a similar situation follow a simple rule. Do Not Speak To The Police. We have a right to remain silent, use it. As the card says, anything you say will be used against you in a court of law. This rule is at it's most useful when you are 100% innocent. Anything you say will only lessen your chances to be vindicated.
35 posted on 09/19/2012 9:40:37 AM PDT by gusty
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Classic case of a straw man fallacy. They couldn't find TM’s DNA on the firearm, but there's no indication it should be there anyway.
37 posted on 09/19/2012 10:02:58 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Quit poking holes in the life raft!)
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