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To: nathanbedford; BlueDragon; mkjessup; Jim Robinson; swpa_mom; fireman15; stephenjohnbanker; ...


I was absolutely NOT going to vote for Romney, then came that disgusting vote on God and Jerusalem, so I was barely going to vote for Romney, but now, after the Obama, Hillary, Susan Rice & lamestream media lies, the Muslim uprisings, terrorist attacks in the Middle East and QE3, I can’t wait to vote for Romney/Ryan, so there’s still hope for a lot of people to wise up!



We won't have a Republic if it’s left to the Marxist.


I watched 60 Minutes last night, but didn’t watch the Marxist’s segment. Romney is playing the conservative/moderate and trying to walk that “iffy all inclusive” line.

I think Romney needs to say, “I’ll give everyone the biggest tax cut in history by repealing Obamacare”!

If you reelect him you're getting the biggest tax increase in US History because “Chief Justice Roberts said Obamacare is a TAX.”


160 posted on 09/24/2012 8:37:37 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx; nathanbedford; BlueDragon; mkjessup; Jim Robinson; swpa_mom; fireman15

” We won’t have a Republic if it’s left to the Marxist. “

Correct. As I have previously posted, even if we defeat Obama, it will take 10 years to fix all the damage he has already done, both here, and abroad.


161 posted on 09/24/2012 8:42:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: onyx
Much of your post could stand repeating --- to Democrat and Independent voters. I think you'll find more agreement than you'd expect. In swing states it could be the difference.

On the other hand; As I've mentioned previously on this forum, since I live in California --- I rather doubt my own vote, or even the votes of every single freeper who also lives in this State, if they were for Romney,would be enough to make much a dent much less turn the tide for this State's 55 electoral votes. yet we can vote for conservatives downticket (where they can be found that is), and on other ballot issues (some more local in nature than others).

I think Romney needs to say, “I’ll give everyone the biggest tax cut in history by repealing Obamacare”!

maybe. It needs to be pointed out that beyond the questionable individual mandate portion of the law, there will soon follow EMPLOYER MANDATE to cover employees, which will strangle productive sectors of the economy --- hijacking and handing tons of cash over to insurance company executives at the same time, surely isn't a roadmap for bringing this nation out of the economic doldrums.

The Act is deeply flawed, despite it's "best intentions". We need more than good intentions. We need programs that actually work --- or we need to avoid creating bureaucratic stranglehold nightmares that seize control as much for the sake of the appearance of "control" as anything. 1,200+ pages of the monstrous bill, followed by 10,000 more pages of government "code" written by Obama bureaucrats, is not the path we need take. It brings along far too many negatives, for (the original) sake of saving insurance companies and health insurance ratepayers premium costs -- particularly when it's obvious now that EVERYONE's rate will NOW INCREASE due to the 'Affordable" Act.

Instead, not only will it cause employers to lay off or fire workers, and reduce future hiring too, it is for those reasons also a sure-fire formula for 25% unemployment (if we're lucky it will only be 25% and not more), which will leave the government needing to subsidize healthcare insurance for more than this nation can afford, --- effectively breaking the bank, while enriching insurance companies, and for-profit health care providers. At the same time, we will need also to increase borrowing quite heavily, putting the nation even deeper into crushing debt.

There are tons of doctors who don't like the Act. Maybe Romney could get himself backed by a fleet of them, like Obama did for a photo-op, but this time without the phony white lab coats...

The so-called "Affordable Health Care for America Act", is anything but it's descriptive title. That point needs to be hammered home.

Romney could score big points on his "repeal and replace" theme, if he included that the Senate, House, and Executive branch would all be subject to the same rules as everybody else, in regards to whatever will come of a worked-out "replacement". No more gold-plating for the political class, while everyone else has to pay through the nose for lesser results.

That sort of talk would resonate with the people. But does Romney have the balls to make that stand, and the fire-in-the-belly passion to make it resonate?

I doubt it, but would love to be proved wrong on this point.

Some form of non-profit HMO might be the way to go. I'd like to see pilot programs to prove the concept, before forcing the entire nation to submit to provisions of some far reaching "Act of Congress"

Simply streamlining the paperwork (if this could be done while still guarding against fraud) could help make health care affordable for more than it is now.

If one could make it cheaper and better, industry would flock to buy that "product". But first --- make the government, it's employees and it's executives fully subject to the provisions for some span of time, before forcing all the rest of us into doing the same.

Government is spending taxpayer monies already for health care for "employees". There's a ton of dough right THERE. Use those expenditures more efficiently in some form of proof of concept, then they could say to all the rest --- we have your health insurance plan right here, cheaper, better.

Forcing everyone now to pay into the systems now in place, is just a coward's short-cut, along the road to socialized medicine. Government could create the incentives for non-profit HMO's to flourish, if they set their minds to it. We need not listen to the screams of the insurance companies. They can learn how to compete -- or DIE for all I care. Let's face it... they're somewhat parasitical in nature from the get-go. Why must we all be forced into supporting that?

167 posted on 09/24/2012 10:03:53 AM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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