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US Intelligence Suffers Major Compromise in Libya ("catastrophic intelligence loss" US official)
Red State ^ | 24 Sep 12 | Red State

Posted on 09/24/2012 1:25:01 PM PDT by xzins

The sheer incompetence of our State Department and the Obama administration is once again being trotted out for the world to see.

The tip of the iceberg was exposed last week when CNN reported on the journal of slain US Ambassador Christopher Stevens that one of its news crews had recovered from the smoking rubble of the former US consulate in Benghazi. One had to wonder what possessed a US ambassador to carry a paper journal outside the US embassy in this day and age and how in the name of heaven such a document was left unattended after the attack on the consulate.

Now it appears that the “safe house” where Stevens and others were supposed to find security during the attack was a treasure trove of CIA and State Department information on efforts to recover MANPADS and the identities of local nationals who were working on our behalf.

“It’s a catastrophic intelligence loss,” said one American official who has served in Libya and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the F.B.I. is still investigating the attack. “We got our eyes poked out.”

American intelligence operatives also assisted State Department contractors and Libyan officials in tracking shoulder-fired missiles taken from the former arsenals of the former Libyan Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s forces; they aided in efforts to secure Libya’s chemical weapons stockpiles; and they helped train Libya’s new intelligence service, officials said.

Senior American officials acknowledged the intelligence setback, but insisted that information was still being collected using a variety of informants on the ground, systems that intercept electronic communications like cellphone conversations and satellite imagery. “The U.S. isn’t close to being blind in Benghazi and eastern Libya,” said an American official.

Spokesmen for the C.I.A., the State Department and the White House declined to comment on the matter on Sunday.

Adding to the general aura of disarray was the rather hilarious exchange between one of Hillary’s spokestoads, the French sounding Phillipe Reines, and Buzzfeed’s Michael Hastings when Buzzfeed decided to try to commit a random act of journalism. (You really have to read the article at the link. Trust me your day won’t be complete without it.)

From the tenor of interview, it seems that not only does Mr. Reines have a problem keeping his hands to himself but there is a much larger compromise of intelligence than is currently been reported. In the midst of a slanging match over State’s unprecedented attack on CNN’s reporting, we get this gem:

I do agree that the media has lots of responsibilities, and CNN fulfilled its responsibility by returning the diary while still managing to inform the American public of newsworthy information. So it’s unfortunate that you are trying to make a scapegoat out of CNN. That State was forced to flee Benghazi–again, because of such inadequate security, leaving behind all sorts of sensitive information–tells us more about DoS than CNN.

The lies and dissimulation of this administration in the aftermath of 9/11/12 have been stunning in both their scope and amateurishness. It paints the picture of an incompetent and insular regime only now confronting the first actual questions by the previously stump-trained media and failing miserably in the process.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhocia; bhogwot; christopherstevens; foreignpolicy; libya; obama; obamalegacy

1 posted on 09/24/2012 1:25:07 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

This administration is so deadly dangerous.


2 posted on 09/24/2012 1:30:48 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: xzins

We’re sure it was only a matter of time until biden and obama spilled all of the secret information contained in the unsecured documents. They can’t help who they are.


3 posted on 09/24/2012 1:31:16 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: xzins

See? It’s the 15,000 SA-24 Grinch man-portable anti-aircraft missiles that are floating around Libya (probably in AQ hands) that has them worried.

These aren’t the kind that are easily fooled with flares —it’s possible that commercial planes all over the world will now have to get laser dazzlers, in order to (maybe) neutralize these missiles.

THAT is what Obama and Hillary want you to NOT focus on.

Hillary’s l’il lark in Libya loosed those missiles and we’ll be living (or dying) with that for decades.


4 posted on 09/24/2012 1:33:02 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: xzins
But, the President appears on "The View" - that makes it all right, doesn't it???
5 posted on 09/24/2012 1:33:44 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: ColdOne

Oh come on CO, it’s just a mere speed bump to a greater outcome. Get with the program...


6 posted on 09/24/2012 1:33:44 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: xzins

What a bunch of incompetents. No wonder they were lying so forcefully to cover their tracks.


7 posted on 09/24/2012 1:34:10 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (God is a victim of identity theft by anointed progressive academics and intellectuals)
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To: fhayek

;)


8 posted on 09/24/2012 1:38:11 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: gaijin

By now the missiles could be in backyards surrounding Kennedy airport, could be in Las Vegas, in Boston.

The Libyans who were helping get them back are dead, running for their lives, or scared half to death.

The actual job of the SEAL killed at the Embassy was NOT security —it was getting these very many missiles BACK.


9 posted on 09/24/2012 1:38:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin
15,000 SA-24 Grinch man-portable anti-aircraft missiles

That's a bullseye, gaijin.

Every major airport in the free world could be in danger in a matter of weeks.

Our state department is incompetent.

10 posted on 09/24/2012 1:38:25 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: gaijin

15,000 of them floating around (AQ friendly) Libya

11 posted on 09/24/2012 1:39:43 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Seems CHAVEZ in Venezuela also gave Khaddafi many of the SA-24’s:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/who-sold-libya-its-super-missiles/


12 posted on 09/24/2012 1:43:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

THESE have been the glaring problem from day one. They were allegedly “recovered” in the initial conflict. Guess not.

Hill and BO... brilliant team....Right.


13 posted on 09/24/2012 1:44:33 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.s)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
What a bunch of incompetents.

Regarding the Libyan mess... in McCain's case, I would agree with you. In Obama's case, I would not. In fact, I believe that for Obama, this is part of the plan (albeit not necessarily precisely according to the timetable).

Mr. niteowl77

14 posted on 09/24/2012 1:50:28 PM PDT by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: gaijin

One wonders why, if we had 15Es in the area during the revolution, why these stockpiles were not destroyed right away.

I wonder who was behind this flaming screw-up.


15 posted on 09/24/2012 1:53:48 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.s)
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To: xzins

The State Department is always the same security disaster. It shows up in every crisis - Tehran, Moscow, Krakow....State never gets it right. (Of course no one ever gets punished at State, either.)


16 posted on 09/24/2012 1:59:16 PM PDT by Rapscallion (If Obama wins he will be an evil tyrant over America.)
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To: ColdOne
No kidding! Obama has PURPOSFULLY put us on this destructive path to destroy our intelligence sources. It was planned and he has succeeded and we better pray Romney will clean house at the State Dept and TRY to right the wrongs.
17 posted on 09/24/2012 2:18:17 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: xzins

Yeah well, when you introduce massive chaos on the Middle East you are going to lose a major amount of assets.

Predictable ....


18 posted on 09/24/2012 2:19:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ColdOne

“This administration is so deadly dangerous.”

Come on get with the program. Obama is hip and cool. He is so cool that conservatives just don’t get it; Obama is above them on a very different level.


19 posted on 09/24/2012 2:25:33 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: xzins

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

That email exchange was too much!!!!!
OMG! LOL


20 posted on 09/24/2012 2:26:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: xzins
Our state department is incompetent.

But of course.

Dems and especially Clintons have always had the opinion that government is so easy, anyone can do it. They treated it that way before, hired and appointed that way and continue to treat it that way.

A Clinton in State GUARANTEES incompetence.

21 posted on 09/24/2012 2:27:41 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Vendome

LOLOL!

It was classic.

We should post it, but I think it might take approval due to the language. What do you think?


22 posted on 09/24/2012 2:28:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

>> The sheer incompetence of our State Department and the Obama administration is once again being trotted out for the world to see.

And these dirtbags decided to sacrifice the 1st Amendment as a diversion.


23 posted on 09/24/2012 2:29:24 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: xzins

“by the previously stump-trained media “

LOL


24 posted on 09/24/2012 2:43:51 PM PDT by ThirdMate
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To: xzins

So NOW we have some idea why he was killed.


25 posted on 09/24/2012 2:51:51 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: xzins
The Preezy of the United Steezy no doubt thinks Chillin' With The Stars is the most important thing to do. So do most of his vapid, useless, greedy, and abysmally ignorant supporters. The few who happen to be smart are in it for the personal power, satisfaction of their evil motives, and their share of the huge theft of taxpayer monies.

I don't find this "Chillin"". I find it chilling...

26 posted on 09/24/2012 2:52:07 PM PDT by Gritty (This election represents the last exit ramp before the death spiral - Mark Steyn)
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To: xzins

If I weren’t on my cell and in the Middle of physical therapy I’d do it with a proviso warning .

It was too much!!!

If its not on the list maybe it could be edited appropriately.


27 posted on 09/24/2012 3:02:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: xzins

Make Hillary start flying commercial. Then, she’ll care.


28 posted on 09/24/2012 3:04:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: xzins

bump


29 posted on 09/24/2012 3:20:26 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: xzins

All foreign Intel Operations should be removed from the oversight & control of the State Department & Sec of State. It needs to be placed under the Pentagon where more rational minds can discern the collected information and coordinate responses if needed. The State Department as far as leaks and bad judgement goes has been compromised for decades.


30 posted on 09/24/2012 3:22:55 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: xzins

Our state department is incompetent.

&&&
Incompetant...or sticking to the plan?

Boy, if we have planes getting shot out of the sky over the US, wouldn’t that be just what is needed to declare martial law right around election time?


31 posted on 09/24/2012 3:24:17 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: xzins
Now it appears that the “safe house” where Stevens and others were supposed to find security during the attack was a treasure trove of CIA and State Department information on efforts to recover MANPADS and the identities of local nationals who were working on our behalf.

The "safe house" was reported to be just a regular house with no security and no defense other than the mistaken belief that it was indeed secret and unknown.

Doesn't sound like the kind of place knowledgeable, competent professionals would store important intelligence information.

But then we are talking about the Obama administration and the Clinton State Dept.


32 posted on 09/24/2012 3:32:45 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: xzins
wonder what will come first, heads sawed off, or a plane downed...
33 posted on 09/24/2012 3:34:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Iron Munro

This is appalling. The 2 former Seals who were murdered were probably going ballistic over what they were seeing.

An intelligence treasure trove in an unsecured house. This isn’t even done in the movies. Even movie directors know that a safe house has to have something....booby traps, document destruction capabilities...something.

Absolutely amazing incompetence.


34 posted on 09/24/2012 3:35:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: blueunicorn6

OK - so AQ had no plans to start shooting jets out of the sky with the 15K manpads they acquired UNTIL Hillary! and zero started cramming some video AQ hadn’t even heard of down Arab Spring throats.


35 posted on 09/24/2012 3:36:36 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Chode

I wouldn’t want to be one of the Libyans who helped us who have been compromised. My guess is that some of them are already gone.

No one will trust us.

That is another disaster.


36 posted on 09/24/2012 3:38:05 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
wouldn't surprise me a bit and it's prolly part of the boy's plan to alienate us from the rest of the world by making us look untrustworthy, which under his term, we are...
37 posted on 09/24/2012 4:28:30 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: gaijin
It’s the 15,000 SA-24 Grinch man-portable anti-aircraft missiles that are floating around Libya (probably in AQ hands) that has them worried.

Are these the ones that have the GPS in them similar to OnStar®?

We just call them and they phone back their location?

38 posted on 09/24/2012 5:50:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: gaijin
Thanks for the photo. Hadn't heard of this missile; it's a newer generation than the SA-14's some African AQ types tried to kill an airliner with in East Africa several years ago.

This just sounds ominous.

39 posted on 09/25/2012 1:17:41 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: All

http://www.youtube.com/v/X-Xfti7qtT0?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0

Watch the video.


40 posted on 09/25/2012 4:53:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bigg Red
Boy, if we have planes getting shot out of the sky over the US, wouldn’t that be just what is needed to declare martial law right around election time?

They'll be determined to be mechanical malfunctions and the press will nod their heads compliantly, just like before.

41 posted on 10/24/2012 3:13:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

They’ll be determined to be mechanical malfunctions and the press will nod their heads compliantly, just like before.

&&&
Oh, they will report whatever they are told.

Most likely, the Tea Party and not mechanical failures will be blamed.


42 posted on 10/24/2012 3:25:48 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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