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To: icwhatudo
'Simultaneous' means what we both know it means. Golden Tate didn't catch the ball and it wasn't simultaneous. He instead caught the player who actually caught the ball just a moment previous. He likewise did not control the ball. 'Control' means what we both know it means.

That's different from catching the ball at the same time and showing that he had control.

That's what the picture shows.

114 posted on 09/25/2012 12:03:01 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: The KG9 Kid

“Golden Tate didn’t catch the ball”

Actually he did. We can argue who touched the ball with both hands first, but Tate did legally “catch” the ball.

“and it wasn’t simultaneous”

Actually I would agree in that Tate made the “catch” first since both his feet were down prior to the defenders feet coming down. See the NFL statement on what constitutes a “catch”. Just because a defender has the ball in his hands does not make it a catch until both his feet are down. By the time the defenders feet had come down, Tate already had partial possession of the ball and both feet down and was trying to strip the ball totally away from the defender.

“He instead caught the player who actually caught the ball just a moment previous.”

Photos prove Tate’s left hand was inside the defenders hands. He did not simply grab the defender. And again, the defender can not legally “catch” the ball until both his feet come down. Every video show Tates hands on the(ball/defender/whatever you want to say) PRIOR to the defenders feet being on the ground.

“He likewise did not control the ball. ‘Control’ means what we both know it means.”

It doesn’t matter what we think it means. It only matters what the NFL says it means. Its their rules and definitions. By their rules, it was a touchdown. The play was reviewed-still a touchdown. Reviewed again by the NFL itself-still a touchdown and correct call on that aspect. (they blew the pass interference though)


159 posted on 09/26/2012 6:13:18 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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