Posted on 09/25/2012 4:35:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
Utah's electoral votes are safely in the bag for Romney, that should be safe to assume.
Meanwhile, what have we got here? Elsie, just one more loveable harmless goofball, posting on FreeRepublic. Nothing to get upset over. Ok, he has a thing against Mormonism. He's not alone.
Nonetheless, I think folks here (who are here as much as anything because they DO hold strong political viewpoints) if they are in battleground States, will vote for the Republican nominee, regardless of the grumbling by a few of us here (including myself).
if the man does make it.. I would like to see some overturning of much of what Obama has done on an "Executive" basis. For example -- the Keystone XL pipeline extension. Identify the few trouble spots, do what is necessary to preclude possible harm to the groundwater tables in key areas, from potential future leaks ---even it meant double-walling certain sections with pipe big enough for an inspector to easily move around in--- then GET IT BUILT.
Take the "Dream Act" put into effect by Obama against the will of Congress, and require States to add a modifier or indicator on every driver license issued under the provision of the Act, that the holder of said license was not eligible to VOTE. Maybe force States to build a data-base of such individuals that both political parties can access compared to voter rolls. In the very least, something, anything that would work to preclude such driver's licenses and work permits to equal full citizenship "rights". related issue, food-for-thought FR thread Ease of getting voter IDs at the center of Commonwealth Court hearing
The list could go on. Another first item of business,(oil/energy policies again) would be to go through the EPA with a fine-toothed comb.FR thread "The EPA’s Arrogance and Incompetence Keeps America Dependent on Foreign Oil"
Critics of that sort of thing will undoubtedly say it would be done for political reasons. Answer them, "yes, that's right. It's being done to take the politics OUT of the science, and move towards actually science neutrality. Moving this nation towards energy independence is absolutely crucial for it's economic and security interests." Period.
Would Romney Move on such things, and other issues? Maybe, but he has a record of making too nice with the likes of the environmental lobby, folding his tent too soon, in an apparent(?) effort to "be liked".
Perhaps there are some close-to-Romney, Mormon MoFo's out there, snooping on pathetic FR threads. Am I singing to the choir? (on energy issues). If so, light a fire under your boy's butt, would you?
“Fricking embarrassing.”
You know what is embarrassing.
A dishonest thug from Chicago is slandering a decent man and nobody stands up to it.
It’s good to see some reporting on the real Mitt Romney.
“I have no doubt that Mitt is personally a caring human being.
But being nice is not what America needs today. What we need is a President who will take away the government “sugar tit” from millions. Millions who will cry their despair with the full support of the media.
Is Mitt capable of doing that?? “
The infamous ‘47% video’ shows he knows its a problem.
The Ryan plan is a solution to getting us to balance.
No President can do it alone, but Obama wants to march off the fiscal cliff and he is a lot better.
Apparently they dug it out of a book that I never heard of and which the Obama-media has never bothered to read, share or report on.
I recall the WashPost going into detail over a high school prank but NOT ONCE reporting on any of these seven rather remarkable stories.
the lib-media is puke-worthy.
Just skimming the list, we know that numbers 1 and number 6 are blatant lies.
Ridiculous, obscene lies that are embarassments in their level of lying.
It looks like you almost know a LITTLE bit of Scripture.
The ACTUAL story goes like this:
Matthew 7:15-20
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
You insult a lot and make accusations.
Do you have any EVIDENCE you'd like to present before the court?
Aren't YOU the demanding one!
HMMMmmm...
I doubt this will happen.
Neither one of the two MAIN presidential candidates are going to be doing much singing to the choir.
The SATBs had their minds made up LONG ago!
What you'll hear until November will be deception, lies, promises, and propaganda from BOTH sides to try to influence the UNDECIDEDs who slither among us.
And you was a witness, that this did not happen? I suppose you will jump for joy if that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Gets reelected and finishes the destruction of this great nation
That was a strange response, the stories are false, and rather than ask for what really happened, you launch into a personal attack against the poster.
Do you want the truth about this ridiculous claim of an heroic Mitt saying lives as described in 1 and 6?
It’s not an unreasonable request, is it? What do you propose that we do about it? Even if the answer is nothing, give me an answer.
I don’t like Mormonism any more than you do, but it’s getting fairly tiresome to see you doing nothing but kvetch about it without offering any kind of solution, and for that matter hijacking non-religion threads in order to do so.
So now I want to know what your mind is on this issue. I’m not trying to get your vote, but if you hate Mormonism so much, what is your opinion on what a good Christian ought to do regarding the election?
FALSE—1) Mitt Romney saved the life of a 14 year old girl
This one time effort for a powerful, wealthy fellow Mormon leader and executive has never been done again by Mormon Bishop Romney, it was Mormon insider stuff by the elites, way over the top for a teen girl that went to a rave and stayed with her friends for a couple of days, like so much related to Romney, this reveals a darker, single minded devotion to the Mormon cult.
Mormon Bishop, Robert Gay, the Bain executive is at the top among Mormon leaders, On March 31, 2012, he became a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy.
“But several acquaintances of the teen who knew her well at the time and have not spoken publicly before told The Daily a different story: one of a rebellious adolescent in a moment of high-spirited escapism who hid from her parents in relative safety in an upscale New Jersey town.
And they credited the group of new friends she made during her disappearance, including a boyfriend, as the ones who ultimately encouraged Melissa Gay — daughter of Romney’s colleague at private equity firm Bain Capital — to head home to her panicked family.”
“Did Mitt Romney ‘save’ this girl? No,” said Doug Becker, the then-boyfriend and now a 32-year-old pastor in the same town of Rockaway, N.J. “But I do think what spurred her going home was the kind of coverage it was getting, and I think [Romney] was pretty responsible for that.”
“Another childhood friend, speaking anonymously, was more blunt. “I think the ad is incredibly misleading. Dishonest is the word for it,” the friend said. “She wasn’t saved, she ran away to go to a rave, and got lost and wound up in New Jersey. She paged a friend to come get her.”
Evidently the only teen in America to runaway for a few days, that stirred Mitt’s expensive, and heroic, attentions, just happened to be a wealthy and powerful Mormon leader, and Bain executive.
Make ads creating a Romney mythology, like this?
“”Since 2002, in the early years of Romney’s entrance into public life, three of his campaigns — one gubernatorial and two presidential — have floated the story to demonstrate his crisis management skills and, more importantly, his human side. But each time the basic facts have become more blurred.
During his 2002 gubernatorial bid, for example, a Boston Globe profile of Romney described Melissa as near death, found in Montauk, N.Y., where she was “shivering through detox after a massive dose of ecstasy.” Robert Gay had been told by doctors, according to the story, that his daughter “might not have lived another day.”
Other more recent news stories have even claimed that Melissa was kidnapped. She wasn’t.
The source of these details is unclear, but the spirit of these tellings — that Romney’s know-how rescued a teen who was just hours away from death — has gone uncorrected and unchallenged.
In 2007, in Romney’s first bid for the presidency, his campaign ran a TV ad by the name of “Searched.” In the 30-second spot, sirens wail as newspaper clippings dissolve into ominous skyscraper images and Robert Gay tearfully speaks.
“Mitt’s done a lot of things that are nearly impossible, but for me the most important thing he’s ever done was to help save my daughter,” Gay told prospective voters.
Earlier this year, the pro-Romney PAC “Restore Our Future” ran the spot again under the title “Saved.”””
I read the book this past summer....it was easy to find at the library, right out in front of the new book section.
The media is so corrupt....winning elections will be hell from now on, due in large part to them.
Else, get a life! We are not electing a Pope, we are trying to elect a president. I know that taxes your mental acuity, but that’s what this is about. I guess you can vote for Obama if you really hate Mitt Romney that much. From the way you think, my guess is that you are a closet Marxist anyway!
First things; quite tearing into other freepers over the Romney candidacy. Save the getting personal nastiness (if there be any) for real enemies, not past allies, and/or potential future friends.
Regardless of which way the election goes, we are going to need more conservative firepower. Wasting it in circular firing squads doesn't help much.
Otherwise, I've already given some info on "where to start", or at least the sort of things we should agitate for...though I reckon others might be able to serve up the same or somewhat different, with better detail and organization.
Now as to this;
I’m not trying to get your vote, but if you hate Mormonism so much, what is your opinion on what a good Christian ought to do regarding the election?
I never said "I hate Mormonism" much less "so much".
There is no real need to go about revising and extending MY own comments, thank you. I'd much rather reserve that privilege for myself, if you don't mind too much.
I'm not sure what the future will hold, or how long it will "hold", for that matter.
What does seem plain is that we will need some form of coalition(s) which can exert pressure and influence in an effective way.
Tearing new holes in each others' hides while investigating and discussing the issues, I seriously doubt will help us focus on the facts, and those things we can influence. In the past, the TEA Party made it's presence known. Became hated by many establishment types, lied about and mis-characterized in the press.
Stand by to be opposed like that some more, but keep your cool. It would help if we could somehow put real stories behind that bunch of malcontented voters (that would be us) publicized, to humanize the crowd, showing average but informed citizens (which makes them above average in a way) that are united in the view that we must live within our means as a nation -- or at the very least begin to start taking steps towards doing so.
Energy independence... I already mentioned. It's part of a national security issue, even though I'd prefer the future to be such that it turned out to be much more, basically an economic issue, than not.
Have you ever noticed that each of our last few Democrat presidents dipped into the Strategic Oil Reserve as a token salve for domestic price increases --- but Republican presidents always had to come along behind them and work to refill the dang thing, at prices higher than the DemoDumDUms tapped it at? What part of the word "strategic" do they not understand. Give me few hours alone with any of them in a locked room for a few hours, and I assure you I could get them to see the light.
I do apologize. The post was addressed to Elise; I copied you because you had put your two cents in and I thought you deserved the courtesy to see the response.
And I agree completely, energy independence should be one of the top priorities of the new administration (and if it’s not, we ‘little people’ should force it on them). Boy, would it be nice not to have to depend on dictators to make the country go.
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