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America's Dumbest War, Ever (U.S. troops in Afghanistan told no more close air support)
Michael Yon Online Magazine ^ | 26 September 2012 | Michael Yon

Posted on 09/27/2012 11:05:49 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch

Yesterday a concerned father forwarded to me a letter from his son in Afghanistan. I confirmed authenticity, and republish with permission:

Dad,

I am fed up. I cannot believe the lack of attention the recent changes in this war is receiving by the media or the country. I think I saw one thing on CNN about the following subject, but I had to dig extensively to find it. The purpose of this letter is to let you know of the garbage that our soldiers are going through right now. With this knowledge, I hope that you take action by writing your congressmen.

First, because of the recent green on blue incidents or “insider threats” as the new buzz phrase dictates, all coalition forces in Afghanistan have completely stopped partnering with the ANA, AUP, and ALP in order to prevent the death of anymore CF casualties by ANSF or Taliban disguised as them. This is also greatly spurred by President Karzi’s indifferent attitude and lack of action to take measures to prevent further insider attacks.

Second, because of this massive change in policy (and complete change in mission) all U.S. forces are forbidden to actively patrol their AO and are to remain on their respective COPs/FOBs. There are only a few exceptions to this rule and they all pertain to “hardening” highway 1 in our AO. We have received orders that clearly state that all CF will no longer be allowed to drop air to ground munitions within the country of Afghanistan. This preempts Karzi’s announcement that will be made shortly that states the above mentioned order, making it a tactical directive that he is ordering.

To the first point: Our mission in Afghanistan is to partner with the ANSF on all levels. Now the policy makers are telling us that we are not allowed to do that and further more we are to take immediate measures to secure ourselves from the ANSF that are co-located with us. So the question now becomes, what is our mission? Furthermore, the implication is that we have absolutely no reason to still be in this country if we are not partnering with the ANSF. So why are we here?

To the second point: I don’t think that the American citizens would be happy if they knew that their soldiers were being prohibited from defending themselves in any way because of politically driven orders, but that is precisely what is happening in this war right now even as I write this letter. The soldiers of the U.S. never engage the enemy unless we know that we have will always have the tactical advantage in defending ourselves, that advantage is the use of close air support and air weapons team. To take those weapons away from us is to level the playing field for the enemy and thus exposing our soldiers to more danger. In the school house they teach us that the minimum ratio that we are to engage the enemy with, is a 3:1 ratio. In other words, we have the highest probability of winning because we don’t fight fair. The sound tactical principles behind this teaching have saved lives. The very presence of aircraft over our foot patrols has also saved lives and now our chain of command is being told by our political leadership that this is now not allowed.  If we are not partnering with the ANSF and we are not actively patrolling to prevent our enemies from massing their attacks on our COP and we can’t drop a bomb on the enemy that we have positively identified, than what the hell are we doing here?

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I don't agree with the title "America's Dumbest War, Ever".  My title would be "One of America's Worst Managaed Wars Ever, Not To  Be Outdone By The Vietnam War, Thanks to Our Treacherous Leaders"

I think our communist (Democrat) representatives purposefully tie the hands of our miltary servicemen in a war because they actually DO like seeing America's greatest patriots die.  Just another way of eliminating the opposition to their totalitarian communist agenda.  The patriots that die on the battlefield won't be coming home and voting for the opposition.  Or reproducing, and training up anymore patriots down the line. 

 

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1 posted on 09/27/2012 11:05:56 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch
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To: CaptainKrunch

0bama is keeping our troops in theater after we’ve already surrendered. That has got to be the most demoralizing, degrading thing any soldier can endure. I’d have a difficult time keeping my contempt for my CIC under wraps. Prayers up for our troops. They have the worst possible CIC at the worst possible time.


2 posted on 09/27/2012 11:13:06 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: CaptainKrunch

I would not serve in the military today with this CIC. And if I was in the military today I would refuse to go to war with the current ROE. I’d be locked up but I would be alive.


3 posted on 09/27/2012 11:16:33 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: CaptainKrunch

( America’s Dumbest War, Ever (U.S. troops in Afghanistan told no more close air support) ...... it became the dumbest war in US history when the stupid people of this country voted for and got their impersonator in chief....


4 posted on 09/27/2012 11:16:48 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: CaptainKrunch

I’ve had soldiers return from Afghanistan tell me that the suicide rate is so high due to O’Bummer’s rules of engagement. They can’t defend themselves when they are shot at without fear of court martial. They are frustrated beyond belief. The stories I am hearing are about one big cluster%#@!.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 11:18:47 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: CaptainKrunch

bookmark


6 posted on 09/27/2012 11:31:51 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Is this 0bama’s way of announcing open season on our troops?


7 posted on 09/27/2012 11:38:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: CaptainKrunch

This reminds me of “Clear and Present Danger” where the American Special Forces are abandon.

If this can be traced back to the CIC, I’d like to be on the jury. Treason, no doubt about it.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 11:41:09 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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It’s OK, Obummer will make it up to them by being very diligent in counting their presidential ballots.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 11:42:26 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Bookmark


10 posted on 09/27/2012 11:43:33 PM PDT by jonascord (Democrats are the people on the Lefsst Sidek of the Bell Curve.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

marker


11 posted on 09/28/2012 12:02:17 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: CaptainKrunch
We have received orders that clearly state that all CF will no longer be allowed to drop air to ground munitions within the country of Afghanistan

I have trouble believing this. I really do. It just doesn't ring true. And I hope it isn't.

That said, if it is true, there needs to be a hanging party for all hands in DC!
12 posted on 09/28/2012 12:08:50 AM PDT by verum ago (Note to self: check the date, stupid!)
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To: verum ago; CaptainKrunch

Actually, the whole letter just reads strangely to me, come to think of it. Doesn’t seem like something written at the front, or by a soldier. It just seems... odd. I can’t put my finger on it. Perhaps if I’d gotten more than seven hours sleep (total) in the last three days...


13 posted on 09/28/2012 12:11:48 AM PDT by verum ago (Note to self: check the date, stupid!)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Should be re-titled, it’s not really a war so why call it one? It’s a lame attempt at nation building. Trying to remake 7th century Muslims into nice guy liberal western civilization types is not a war, its an exercise in frustration.


14 posted on 09/28/2012 12:14:48 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: CaptainKrunch

The straight military doesn’t multiple vote Democrat. What’s better than to deny them CAS, have them all killed, while making noise about “noble sacrifice,” and blame the Shuri faction of Islam?


15 posted on 09/28/2012 12:30:16 AM PDT by jonascord (Democrats are the people on the Lefsst Sidek of the Bell Curve.)
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To: CaptainKrunch
And it's one two three what are we fightin' for/don't ask me I don't give a damn/ next stop's Afghanistan...
What happened to the 60's retreads? Why aren't their occupansy puppets taking to the streets over this?
16 posted on 09/28/2012 12:34:36 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

We are at war and the president of The United States, is on the wrong side.


17 posted on 09/28/2012 1:06:51 AM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: CaptainKrunch; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active duty ping


18 posted on 09/28/2012 1:10:40 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: dsrtsage

“It’s OK, Obummer will make it up to them by being very diligent in counting their presidential ballots.”

Isn’t it amazing how they all voted for him?


19 posted on 09/28/2012 1:37:25 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: verum ago

There have been several others recently with a very similar message. Troops letter home to their parents and/or congressman. I think the last one was them being ordered to patrol through a field filled with IEDs everyday.

Michael Yon knows the military and he says he’s verified this.


20 posted on 09/28/2012 1:42:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Next will be a ban on loaded weapons.


21 posted on 09/28/2012 2:33:07 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

This war was lost way before Obama, when victory was defined as building a strong national government. It won’t work because nobody outside of a handful of cities want’s a strong national government. They are tribesmen and warriors, and a national governmnet threatens threatens their power, their way of life, and their identity. So it unites them against us.


22 posted on 09/28/2012 2:45:17 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Kakaze

I dont know if you have access to Glen becks Channel,but the Documentary he had on the Past two Nights would have Your Blood Boiling,the enemy is in the gates.
The Muslims have not Infiltrated the Top Levels of Government they are Institutionalized.
If you wonder why Holder or any other administration Official will not Mention Radical Islam or Islamic terrorist attack it is Because the Muslim Brotherhood dictates to the Administration what can and cannot be said. Every American should see that Documentary “The Project” before November,we are in real trouble folks.
These are not random opinions put forward in this Piece,there are Verifiable facts Presented every step of the way,very Sobering


23 posted on 09/28/2012 3:06:13 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: CaptainKrunch
This "war" had already lasted longer than the U.S. involvement in the two World Wars (combined) by the time Obama was inaugurated.

This may not be a popular opinion here on FR, but the Afghanistan campaign ran off the tracks long before Obama got into the White House. Just ask yourself why the disgraceful conduct of the war doesn't even get mentioned in Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.

24 posted on 09/28/2012 3:58:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: CaptainKrunch

Obama and his entire administration are anti-American to their core. The fact that they are actively trying to lose in AFG, as well as disenfranchise the military vote, should come as no surprise to anyone.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 4:09:54 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

“gee, with a wiggle of my pen, i can neutralize America’s superiority advantage. how cool is that!”
- 0bama

anyone that thinks these people are playing for the good guys are delusional.

commies are in control


26 posted on 09/28/2012 4:10:10 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s true and you have to go back far before the Afghanistan to find an example of the US allowing its military to win a war.

But that doesn’t excuse what’s going on now.


27 posted on 09/28/2012 4:14:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Right Wing Assault

Already in place. On bases no magazines in the weapons. Not sure if non security forces are even allowed to carry mags. I have seen pictures from flight lines and talked to AF personnel directly that confirm this.


28 posted on 09/28/2012 4:30:30 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: driftdiver
There have been several others recently with a very similar message. Troops letter home to their parents and/or congressman. I think the last one was them being ordered to patrol through a field filled with IEDs everyday.

Michael Yon knows the military and he says he’s verified this.


Fair 'nuff, then. Still wish it weren't true...
29 posted on 09/28/2012 6:59:10 AM PDT by verum ago (Note to self: check the date, stupid!)
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