Skip to comments.Teachers Can Be Caught In School Drunk Five Times and On Drugs Three Times Before Being Fired
Posted on 09/28/2012 8:36:31 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
Forget zero tolerance. Bay City Public School teachers for years could be caught repeatedly under the influence of illegal drugs or alcohol without being fired.
Teachers in possession or under the influence of illegal drugs could be caught three times before they lost their job, and they got five strikes if they were drunk on school grounds before being fired. A school district official said the language in the union contract that protects teachers for those instances "was incorporated into the teacher Master Agreement in 1997."
Those protections also were included in the Bay City Education Association teachers contract that was agreed to in January. That contract expired June 30 and negotiations on a new contract are ongoing.
Students werent given as many chances. The code of conduct for middle school and high school students states that if they are found to be under the influence or in possession of illegal drugs, they get a 5-day suspension or a 3-day suspension with counseling on the first offense.
A teacher caught selling drugs in class would get a 3-day suspension without pay with mandatory counseling, but wouldnt be fired unless the teacher did it a second time.
"They must have had been high to approve that contract because no sober person would agree to that kind of policy," said Leon Drolet, chairman of the Michigan Taxpayers Alliance. "The role models are held to a lower standard than the students. That just sends a horrible message. If anything is indicative of how far school boards are willing to bend to kiss the rings of union leaders, this is it.
"That is an absolute disgrace," he said.
The provision of the teachers' contract that allowed up to five strikes for being under the influence of alcohol and three strikes for being under the influence of illegal drugs before being fired was ruled as unenforceable by Public Act 103 in July 2011. However, the union contract states that if Public Act 103 is struck down, the policy goes back into effect for teachers.
The union contract states that the provisions remain in "full force and affect" for bargaining unit members not subject to the Teachers Tenure Act, which would include job titles such as librarians, guidance counselors, school psychologists, social workers and school nurses.
Bay City Superintendent Doug Newcombe said only a handful of employees are still covered by the contract language.
"From my point of view, that practice has already ended," Newcombe said. "We are not going to apply that language."
Newcombe said the district has not had a situation involving illegal drugs or alcohol arise with a teacher but that district officials would handle each incident on a case-by-case basis.
However, Newcombe would not say that the union protection for teachers who were under the influence of illegal drugs or alcohol would be excluded from the union contract that is being negotiated now.
"I'm not going to speak to ongoing contract negotiations at all," he said. "What we would like to do is be uniform with how we handle things and Ill leave it at that."
The student code of conduct states that the district shall contact local law enforcement authorities if a student is found to be under the influence or in possession of illegal drugs. The teachers contract doesnt have such a stipulation.
Under terms of the contract, teachers found under the influence of alcohol would get a written reprimand on the first offense. On second offense, teachers would get a 3-day suspension without pay and with mandatory counseling. On the third offense, teachers would get a 5-day suspension without pay and with mandatory counseling. On the fourth offense, the penalty was a 10-day suspension without pay and with mandatory counseling. The fifth offense meant termination. A teacher could be fired if she or he didnt participate in the counseling.
For illegal drugs, the first offense was a written reprimand and mandatory counseling. The second offense was a three-day suspension without pay. The third offense was termination.
That says it all.
Although the muscle involved is ring shaped...
A friend of mine taught piano at Berklee in Boston. His boss had an ice machine in his office for the Dewers. They all got fired.
One dirty UA in the oil patch (or hair follicle test) and you'd better practice saying "You want fries with that?".
Teachers get a pass? Sheesh!
Well there is such a shortage of teachers, ya know, especially teachers who are so capable of multi-tasking.
I nearly lost my job in a bindery because the newspaper listed my drunk driving arrest nearly 4 years after the fact.
I had to convince the editor to call my boss and tell him that it was filler for the day.
On coke lines...
Whiskey bottles and brand new cars
Oak tree, you’re in my way
There’s too much coke and too much smoke
Look what’s going on math class
Ooh, that smell
Can’t you smell that smell?
Ooh, that smell
The smell of unions surrounds you, yeah
Would they be reported to the police for criminal prosecution? Or would it be covered up as routine adult-minor sexual relations are in schools?
another myth:...that teaching is the "hardest" job in the world.....lol
‘Teachers Can Be Caught In School Drunk Five Times and On Drugs Three Times Before Being Fired’
Don’t YOU try it!
Unionized government employees...The rest of you can eat chet.
BTW, there are more unionized government employees now, than exist in the private sector.
to be fair- kids can drive gteachers to drink
If they say they have an addiction, by law it is VERY hard to fire them.
Seen it at my plant all the time.
Yep... I was told by a friend some years back that if you suspected a lay-off just tell your manager that you’ve decided to own up to your substance abuse problem and you need assistance to deal with it. Just like that, you’ve got a safety net.
Case in point. There was a gentleman at work who had a serious alcohol problem. He knew it, applied for the assistance program, yet kept missing MONTHS of work at a time. He did get fired.... After TEN YEARS of this.
He went to court multiple times and said “I have a DISABILITY!”. And we had to take him back.
JSNTN, you need to get out more. Even better, put the bong down and go start a business where you have to worry about Fred being high as a kite and killing someone on a fork lift.
Sounds to me like you had bad legal representation.
JSNTN, you need to get out more.
How many workplaces per day would you like me to visit? My employer wants me at just one.
If the employee decides to fight it, firing someone with a disability of any sort can be a problem. The courts will rule in their favor more often than not.
This has been my experience in four states and multiple plants. Once the employee says they have a chemical dependency problem, they are safe for at least six months. Longer if they have a good lawyer.