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To: Perseverando

About the only solution the store owner could have here would be to emulate what gas stations do in bad areas. That is, the cashier is behind bulletproof glass and you do your business through the little window slot at the clerk’s booth.

Of course, that approach works a lot better for a gas station than a convenience store, because of the variety and size of goods a quicky-mart carries. But I figure it’s got to be better than getting “occupied” every day. The police have shown they either can’t or won’t do anything, and hiring security would be a joke. One security guard isn’t going to drive off a local gang of 30+ members.

Now, a few off-duty Detroit PD officers working security might do the trick, especially if they parked in their cruisers out front. But that’s a very expensive solution, if the PD would even allow it. I used to work as a manager in private security. An off-duty will run you $25-35/hour for a cushy assignment. For something like this place - bad area, risks involved, Detroit union rules, etc. - you’d probably be looking at least 50 bucks an hour, or $1200/day to have just one off-duty present at all times. No convenience store can afford that.

Were it me, I’d look to relocate. It’s a no-win situation for the owner.


14 posted on 10/01/2012 9:58:25 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: DemforBush
One security guard isn't’t going to drive off a local gang of 30+ members.

That depends on the tactics employed. Vigilantism is what you get when justice is perceived to not exist. Given that the cops don't even do anything about multiple obvious crimes right in front of their faces ...

22 posted on 10/01/2012 10:05:27 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: DemforBush

Here’s the original story with the security video:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19642028/owner-loitering-teens-taking-over-detroit-gas-station-driving-business-away

Unbelievable. Well, I suppose nothing these days is, but man alive!


24 posted on 10/01/2012 10:07:59 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: DemforBush
Call the cops, wait until the occupiers have left, quickly go inside and rig the place to burn starting at the front and back entrances in order to seal them off. Strategically place accelerants through out the place to make sure of complete destruction. Blame fire on mob, collect insurance and relocate. Two problems solved; mob is turned into crispy critters and you have enough money to start over some where else.
25 posted on 10/01/2012 10:12:13 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: DemforBush
You say Detroit? I say Walt Kowalski.
40 posted on 10/01/2012 11:21:18 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: DemforBush

The guy who runs the little party store in my little town has another store in the Detroit area. He says the little store here that gets between 5 and 10 customers per hour has a larger profit margin despite a fraction of the customers. Not as much money overall but operating costs are much lower as well.

Here he doesn’t have to stock a lot of excess crap. He doesn’t have to hire 3 or 4 people to run the store. His insurance rates are much lower and says nothing has been shoplifted in 18 months that he’s owned the place.


69 posted on 10/02/2012 5:02:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DemforBush

In Anacostia (DC) there are convenience stores that operate out of a little barred window. They don’t sell much-porno, cigs, lighters, candy and energy drinks mostly-and the whole inventory is written on a whiteboard next to the window. You pay first-cash only in a little tray; the “clerk” never gets close enough to grab-and then he will push your order out through the slot with a stick. There are liquor stores there running the same way.


84 posted on 10/02/2012 12:04:45 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: DemforBush

Put the cashier behind armored glass/plexiglass have automatic locks on the doors & if the mob comes in deploy pepper spray in massive quantities (as in aerosol clouds). This will clear folks in a hurry. Repeat as needed .


89 posted on 10/02/2012 1:42:58 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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