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The Quiet Californians
Pajamas Media ^ | 10/02/2012 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/02/2012 9:39:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

If the turn out is not very heavily conservative across the country, just like in 2010, then the US will very quickly turn into California.... more’s the shame


21 posted on 10/02/2012 10:38:41 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Red Badger
Ha!!

If R & R took CA....I'd run naked thru a tick and chigger infested field.

Good thing....it won't happen.

22 posted on 10/02/2012 10:39:07 AM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Parley Baer

“I see no chance for change.”

Yes, we do have a solution to change California. It’s been tested and it works. It’s called Reconstruction, and it was designed to deal with rogue states.

California is declared a state in insurrection. A military governor is appointed and troops, investigators and judges are sent in. The major traitors are arrested and put on trial. Their assets are seized. That sends a message to the rest of the criminal commies in California to leave America. Pronto.

Of course we could wait for the next civil war and clean out the commies that way. That won’t avoid the fact that Reconstruction will need to be implemented after the war.

If someone has a better solution, I haven’t heard it.


23 posted on 10/02/2012 10:51:21 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: SeekAndFind

there also the state of Jefferson.


24 posted on 10/02/2012 10:56:32 AM PDT by RitchieAprile (my French needs no pardoning..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep, in California the last poll in the local newspaper obama was up 25%.
It’s just weird.
I have seen on two signs for Romney, none for obama.
Bumper stickers I saw one on an old woman’s car, but it was from ‘08 and none for Romney.
You wouldn’t even know it was an presidential election year.


25 posted on 10/02/2012 11:06:57 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The GOP may not win the WH, or the Senate ( though I think we will) but the House will stay GOP..and become ever more conservative, for the rest of the decade. California MUST go bankrupt....there is no way to resolve the debt crisis without tossing out the civil service labor and pension contracts..as has already happened in a few smaller cities..the state can’t get out from under otherwise. And with a conservative GOP controlling the House, California can forget about ANY bailout..which is all that the Dems in Sacramento can now hope for..


26 posted on 10/02/2012 11:12:33 AM PDT by ken5050 (Laura Ingraham:"If the GOP can't beat Obama in this economy; shut down the party!")
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To: SeekAndFind
Great article!

For years I have been saying nothing will be done to change our course...short of the 'checks bouncing'.

That time approaches but I can't predict the outcome. Those 'on the take' may react by rioting, just as they are in Spain, Greece....

Will we have a livable country then?

27 posted on 10/02/2012 11:22:53 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: ken5050

You sound hopeful, on various fronts.

I will stipulate to the fact that CA will not be able to cure itself, even if it goes “France” and raises taxes to 75% on upper-earners.

I’m not so hopeful that whatever mix we get vis a vis Congress, that some national security concern will not educe a bailout for CA. The US has become the character in Blazing Saddles who holds a gun to its own head and threatens to kill the guy as if the victim is a third person. The US (and most state) debt situation is so serious, it could well take a GDP reduction of 5-10-20% (the actual number is around 40% if you do the math) and here we are, crying tears of abject destruction in a fetal position over cuts that total maybe 1%, at best. To solve this debt issue, GDP is going to have to contract more than it ever has by a massive degree, and it will produce the most vicious depression ever conceived. Whatever political party invokes this or is in power when this occurs will be out of power thereafter, permanently.

Maybe, in the long term, this is the highest and best use of the GOP-e. But the pain that is to be inflicted during this readjustment is something no American will ever willingly ratify.


28 posted on 10/02/2012 11:29:41 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Want to see where the USA is heading within then next 10-20 years? Look at Argentina.


29 posted on 10/02/2012 11:48:55 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: nascarnation
I feel badly for the good people there who have roots, don’t want to leave, but are confronted with a perpetual liberal governance.

I was born and raised in California, and lived there for half a century. My entire extended family is there, including four grandparents who are buried in Los Angeles county. You could say that I've got roots there, and have bonds that are perpetual.

But guess what? None of that was strong enough to hold me when I finally realized what sort of world my kids would one day be emancipated into. My wife and I sold our house, packed our kids and our business, and fled to Texas seven years ago.

You might think that I've been homesick once in a while since leaving, but curiously, I haven't. That's because my California died a long time ago. The place I left bears no resemblance to the home state I once swore I'd never leave.

30 posted on 10/02/2012 11:55:40 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Besides the title, this says it all: But we, the quiet ones, also know that to reset schools would evoke such outcry that it is not worth the effort...

And the title? Nay, even the concept and it's very phrasing? "The Quietist Californian"

You are looking at world-class politically correct neurolinguistic programming here, folks. World class.

Because what is actually being described is profound moral cowardice.

Jesus spoke of this when he said: “So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth” (Rev. 3:16)

"Quietist." So refined. Calm. Considered. Have a sip of white wine with that. Here's a bite of cheese.

What these people are, are California RINOs. They enable the Democrats. They wear the right clothes, work the right jobs, go to the right parties, listen to everyone carefully, and can always see both sides.

And never take any.

Unless challenged, and then they will definitely declare they are taking a side, and be upside that you thought they weren't, and talk about the issues, and have a sip of wine... and commit to nothing. Are you a conservative? Well, they understand! They even own a few guns. They've been a part of a small business, they worked chores as a kid and have calluses on their hands. They get it.

Have a sip of wine.

Are you a liberal? Hey, thnak God someone is fighting back, right? Where would the poor be without these laws, and how much is enough to make sure that we're all not stuffed into someone's idea of a church? Gays? They have 3.5 gay friends - each. With papers to prove it. Same for blacks and mexicans. habla espaniol, dude? Haha, have a sip of wine.

You haven't seen enablers like the ones in California. They make oil look sticky, while never touching a drop themselves. What do you think EST was really about, buddy? Naked chicks in hot tubs? Well, you're right. That's ALL it was about. And now YOU'RE the naked chick in the hot tub, about to get screwed, without a clue as to how much manipulation that modified lounge lizard or soccer mom is smiling at you.

Lawyers get nervous around these people. Think on that.

And that's all they have to do - nothing. Because the Democrats will do the rest. Oh, they vote Democrat, reliably. But hey, it tears at them. Thye can't not vote, after all, apathy is death. But the republicans go too far, it's better to work with the system, team players are in the game, at the end of the day there's still tommorrow, have a sip of wine.

Now take all that, and add antidepressants.

"Quietists"?

Yep, quiet. Like the townspeople of Aushwitz, closing their windows when the wind shifted, sighing, but understanding that "objection would evoke such outcry that it was not worth the effort..."

Have some wine.

31 posted on 10/02/2012 12:21:31 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Gaffer

“I literally did not recognize it as my country.”

_______

I thought the same when I moved to Pasadena and worked in downtown LA in the 90s. I felt like I had moved to the whole world. The food was great, but the stress of living around people who do not have the same understanding of life, and can’t communicate well, was really draining. In any transaction, you cannot assume the business owner knows that “the customer is always right”, and on the freeway you cannot assume that the other people will “drive defensively” or use “common” courtesy. Public restrooms will not be used in the manner intended and left in the same shape as when the user arrived. And in school, your kid may be shunned by the ones who only speak Chinese, or Spanish, or whatever.

On the other hand, we now live in Torrance and our family is finding that we have more in common with the aspiring immigrants than some of the other families. They are pro-family and faith, have high expectations of conduct for their children, and always show up to help. Liberal white families let their children mouth off and worry about whether teachers have treated their kids special enough. The non-aspiring families, I don’t know, so I think we are doing a good job of avoiding them, except when one of them calls my kid a name on the playground.

I live in a beautiful place. Now, if we could encourage the rude people to leave...


32 posted on 10/02/2012 12:31:21 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It would be like a couple who’re deeply in debt getting a consolidation loan. A brief feeling of intense relief, then the leftists would do what they always do to every beautiful place in this country: move in, begin to ‘transform’ and gradually rot it from the inside.

So we’d end up with three Californias. Four more senators. More political power in Washington.

You can’t cut the rot off this fruit. The best we can do is cut the entire rotten fruit from the tree. Good people need to get out while they still can.


33 posted on 10/02/2012 12:57:41 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

California’s congressional delegation is practically ALL Dem. So a GOP House refusal to approve a bailout, absent, the needed bankruptcy, will cost us a few seats in California, but we’ll pick up far more in other states..


34 posted on 10/02/2012 2:04:50 PM PDT by ken5050 (Laura Ingraham:"If the GOP can't beat Obama in this economy; shut down the party!")
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To: married21

Torrance is a nice city...But, Obama will probably win the votes of most folks in that city...


35 posted on 10/06/2012 11:49:36 PM PDT by L.A.Justice
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