Skip to comments.Gang of 8 plots secret retreat
Posted on 10/03/2012 11:00:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney will crisscross the country during the next month offering different visions for how to fix the countrys fiscal mess.
But in Washington, the senators in the Gang of Six plus two newbies will have a secret retreat next week hosted by Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) to start cobbling together a plan to avoid the looming fiscal cliff.
For this round of talks, the bipartisan group has added Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), a former member of Minority Leader Mitch McConnells (R-Ky.) leadership team, and Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), who has grown close to Obama as he tries to capture Colorado this election season.
Senate insiders confirmed the upcoming session, although the group will not disclose its location.
This group continues to meet and work toward a bipartisan solution, Warner spokesman Kevin Hall said.
Other Gang of Six members include Sens. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.).
The group came together in the summer of 2011 to try to hammer out a deal to solve the debt ceiling crisis but failed to reach an agreement in the end.
Yet its jumped into the latest debate over the fiscal cliff the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and a dramatic cut to federal spending, including for the Pentagon to see try to see if the bipartisan fever catches widely.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), McConnell and other top senators have encouraged the talks to continue largely because they have nothing to lose. These bipartisan groups typically dont have much real power in fact, last time, they were blamed for scuttling a deal between Obama and House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) after they proposed higher revenue targets than agreed to by the principals.
Even through their track record is poor, such gangs do have appeal in Washington: Theyre bipartisan, and seeing political opposites lock arms in genuine negotiations looks refreshing to both the media and the American public. These secret meetings like the one Warner is hosting play to official Washingtons obsession with quiet negotiations between politically serious figures as the way to unravel the most pressing political problems.
But the dynamic, which is sure to distract many in town, ignores a fundamental truth: The House of Representatives is where the action will be after the election.
House Republicans have already passed a bill that extends all the Bush tax rates for a year and moved on legislation to blunt massive cuts to Pentagon and defense spending. If past is precedent, Boehner will hold that up as the partys negotiating position until the rest of the players are ready to come to the table.
Plus, Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantors Republican Conference has been hesitant to put enough revenue on the table to satisfy Democrats and refused to endorse any increase in taxes.
The House has outlined a common-sense path forward by passing legislation that replaces the sequester and stops the looming tax hike for one year while Congress works to enact comprehensive tax and entitlement reform. Tax hikes are a nonstarter, as the speaker has made clear, Boehner spokesman Kevin Smith said in a statement to POLITICO.
With Reid, Obama and Senate Democrats strongly opposed to extending the Bush tax rates for anyone making more than $200,000 annually and families making over $250,000 annually, the lines are set for a huge political clash. Insiders on both sides of the aisle are bracing for a rocky lame-duck session no matter who wins on Election Day.
If polls stay steady, Boehner will be at the helm of a House filled with Republicans disappointed that Obama will have another four years in the White House.
If Romney wins, buckle up, because Republicans will face a whole new set of challenges. Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) have tied themselves tightly to the House GOP budget. A Romney victory will only embolden Republicans to stick tight to those principles, which are nonstarters for almost every Democrat in Congress.
Romney and Ryan will also face the challenge of staffing a new administration while struggling with huge fiscal and budgetary challengers.
But the deadlines are clear and not moving.
Taxes are scheduled to go up at the end of the year if Congress takes no action, hitting an average middle-income family with a $2,000 jump, according to the Tax Policy Center. The rich will get hit with an even heftier tax bill.
Obamas position is that top tax rates should snap back to near 40 percent, the same as they were under former President Bill Clinton. Boehner and McConnell want the Bush rates extended for everyone.
As the clock strikes midnight on New Years Day a mere 55 days after Election Day automatic cuts to the Pentagon and domestic spending will kick in. Defense contractors could begin laying people off. According to Cantor, the U.S. military could even begin rethinking its global engagement strategy.
On top of these massive fights over taxes and spending, the U.S. debt ceiling will need to be lifted by February or March. Remember how that went last time? It was messy.
And theres a lot of talk about tax reform on the campaign trail a mechanism that would be used in place of tax increases to create more revenue. Both sides have struggled to define what that would look like.
The positioning wars are already beginning. The New York Times floated on its front page Tuesday a three-step plan to solve the fiscal cliff. That drew a stern rebuke from McConnell, who later issued a statement saying hes not aligning himself with the Gang of Six or any other group at this time. McConnell hopes that by November hell be majority leader in waiting. Even if hes not, McConnell will still control enough votes to block any Democratic proposal.
As the leader made clear many times, there can be no solution without the presidents involvement and leadership. Sadly, the president has been notably absent from any serious conversation about reducing our national debt, said Don Stewart, McConnells spokesman. And while the leader has encouraged Republican members to seek solutions and is aware that many members are discussing potential solutions, these efforts are still in the early stages, and he has not endorsed any particular effort over another.
And theres one other factor to consider in resolving the fiscal challenges both McConnell and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who might take over as majority whip in the next Congress, are up for reelection in 2014. With strong tea party groups active in their home states, McConnell and Cornyn cannot ignore calls for fiscal belt-tightening from their conservative constituents or they could end up facing primary challenges.
And Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the powerful Finance Committee, is also up next cycle. Depending on who wins this years Senate battle in Montana, Baucus may see a different political landscape back home come January.
-- Steven Sloan contributed to this report.
theater complete with the clowns
Why not a Gang of 1? Turn it over to Obamessiah as our benevolent dictator. This “Gang” cr@p has to stop.
We’re not Maoist (yet).
Watch rinos craft a bad deal before the election, or after an Obama defeat for that matter.
Any time Mitch McConnell is doing something out of sight I worry.
We need a gang of 60+ Tea Party senators.
He doesn't want the job. He's moving to Hawaii into a $35 million mansion where he will preside as President of Hawaii.
The new benevolent dictator will be Valerie Jarrett. Official announcement comes Dec. 21, 2012.
1. Indicative of the extreme degree of conditioning, many will read past this event and overlook that just the meeting itself is more $ leaching. The “drinks, food, lodging, transportation, aides.... times X no. of meals/days, and return transportation, even if it’s local” is ALL on U.S.
2. Self-authorization to do as they please. Has the so called “House” (also non accountable anymore) approved?
3. And of course, “bipartisan” is the inside code speak for further extortion abuse. As I’ve said before, we’re preparing for the 2014 Extortion-Care planned leverage early.
Is there one conservative among them?
While I can’t speak for the rest of these “senators”, my senator, Warner, voted for Obamacare and tried to sell it to the citizens of VA by saying it fell under the “general health and wellfare” clause of the Constitution...
so lame, it’s laughable..
it will be remembered when he’s up for re-election.
That's a scary thought. Obama/Biden win in November. After the Electoral College approves the ticket, Biden resigns to spend more time w/ his family and Obama appoints Jarret to VP. Obama then abdicates and absconds to Hawaii leaving Val-Jar Binks in the Oval Office :-(
Oh, Harry has Obama and the media in his pocket.
Every Dem senator here runs as a moderate and then fanatically follows his party’s line- and then gets reelected running as a moderate.
Maybe Warner will be the last but media play of sham ‘bipartisan’ acts like this will help him.
Sounds par for the course !
RE: , Biden resigns to spend more time w/ his family and Obama appoints Jarret to VP.
That is subject to approval by both houses of Congress. That could happen if :
1) Both houses of Congress are once again under Democrat control; or
2) One or both houses are under Republican control and they cave to Obama’s wishes.
Gee...why am I so sure that the ONLY solution...devolution of Federal power by massive deregulation, shuttering( and I mean rats/squirrels eating the stuffing outa the chairs shuttering!) of half a dozen major Federal agencies, functional Fair Tax reform and ditching Obamacare...aren’t anywhere on these clowns agenda?!!
Is there one conservative among them?”
Not by my definition and God help us if Cornyn is Senate whip. Only hope that someone steps up to the plate to run against him. Whoever it is will get my vote.
Bring in the clowns!
Any such meetings will be to protect themselves, not America.
Gheitner was approveded by a republican controlled senate. All Obama has to say is she’s the only person who can do the job.
I, for one, hope to remind VA voters of his record...
He’s a snake in the grass...no more!