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Has the Rino Saved the Republic?
vanity | October 4, 2012 | Nathan Bedford

Posted on 10/04/2012 2:57:43 AM PDT by nathanbedford

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To: nathanbedford

I NOMINATE THIS FOR FREEPER POST OF THE YEAR:

“An empty suit is like a soufflé, when the air goes out the whole thing collapses. Obama is the classic empty suit who has been propelled since infancy through the best schools (from the most exclusive prep school in Hawaii to Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard Law), bestowed with great honors (president of the Law Review, Nobel Peace Prize) and into posts (instructor at University of Chicago Law School, Illinois State Senator, United States Senator, President of the United States of America) for which he was qualified only by virtue of his race and his radical ideology. The whole contrivance imploded last night as the air went out of Obama’s campaign in one great rancid and embarrassingly public fart.”


41 posted on 10/04/2012 6:12:38 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Shubel
I am afraid that we are condemned by universal usage to call the Republicans the red party and the Democrats the blue party even though any reasonable approach would be to reverse the colors. Similarly, I am afraid the term, "Rino" has entered the lexicon in a way that does not necessarily comport with history.

Incidentally, I have been railing about the misuse of the word to "Swiftboat" when the media should be saying to, "Bork." I do not think I will win the fight either.

Finally, one can apply many criticisms of statism to Abraham Lincoln, our first Republican president, if one wanted to look into the historical origins of the party deeply enough. One might also make serious criticisms of the radical Republicans and reconstruction from a classical conservative perspective. The first progressive president, I suppose, was Teddy Roosevelt.

So I suppose one could say that the idea of a "Rino" comes about only in the modern conservative movement beginning with Bill Buckley and Kirk. But I take your point.

All the best,


42 posted on 10/04/2012 6:14:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: ConservativeDude
I do believe that I was one of the first to declare that -0- was a mentally deficient AA baby way back in '08. It was during the D primaries - I had vaguely heard about Barry making quite a splash. I was scanning radio stations while driving and came across what I concluded was one of their debates.

As I listened to this bumbling, stumbling, inarticulate loser, I smiled to myself knowingly. I figured that even as far gone as the US was/is, the electorate couldn't possibly be that debauched. Alas, I was wrong on that count; as many have said, it isn't 0 that is the disaster, it's the fact that a majority of people in this country voted for him.

Four years later, his performance(s) have only degraded. What we're seeing now is what admissions staff saw during his school days, what publishers saw when reading "his" manuscript, what the Nobel committee saw during the interview process. But could any reveal the truth? Hah - AA manifested in all its glory.

It might just be time for American to takes off its collective beer goggles.

43 posted on 10/04/2012 6:18:30 AM PDT by semantic
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To: LS

a drubbing of the highest order”

Nicely articulated, sir.


44 posted on 10/04/2012 6:31:04 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: semantic

excellent


45 posted on 10/04/2012 6:33:15 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Biggirl
“Well with the VP debate coming up next week, with Ryan taking on Bidden, it could be the start of the end of the Obama era”

On a level playing field Ryan will abuse Biden to the point his Wife will have nothing to do with him...if you know what I mean.

After last night, the Media/Moderator will do their best to rig the VP debate.

46 posted on 10/04/2012 6:37:13 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: DAC21

I do think they will still be too much in shock to do anything in regards to the VP debate that is coming up.


47 posted on 10/04/2012 6:51:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: nathanbedford
Excellent analysis as usual, sir. This is a melee of the first order. The smoke and dust of battle is just now stirring. Romney and his team have to be as aggressive and ruthless as Nathanael Green, Grant, Sherman, Halsey, Patton, LeMay, et al...

Obama will always have a large share of support from the 47% takers who feed off the makers, and he is counting on that. We saw a rare glimpse of Obama without his mask on last night. He is uncomfortable being challenged in any way. This is not how he was brought up. I also still maintain that he could personally care less if he wins another term or not, which belies his outward display on stage last night. His hardcore syncophants are the driving force for their poster boy. They will not retire quietly. Debate performances do help set the tone but rarely offer the decisive knockout blow. I have no real expectations that Romney and the GOPE are willing to drop their usual self inflicted congeniality to the opposition in order to win. This will be their undoing if they go the way of McCain from here on in.

To paraphrase Josey Wales, Romney and his team need to get mad dog mean, with a happy warrior smile, of course.

48 posted on 10/04/2012 7:08:31 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: Shubel

Fourierian socialists ~ more likely the Fourierian Socialists were all down there in Texas coming up with some new way of justifying slavery ~ see: http://coursesite.uhcl.edu/HSH/Whitec/LITR/5439utopia/models/resposts/2011/11rp2/rp2Seth.html


49 posted on 10/04/2012 9:10:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nathanbedford
I'm not sure even a trend line can be trusted if derived from a poll with an average 9% response rate ~ and that's what PEW says is going on.

The peeps don't have to answer their phones anymore so they're not!

50 posted on 10/04/2012 9:16:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nathanbedford

The problem is that all of things we still rail against were begun by Republicans. Put simply one can not save the Union by destroyng the Constitution.
Wouldn’t Nullification & Secession have been nice weapons to use in fight on Roe or Obamacare, for example?
I would simply urge you to read Judge Abel Upshur’s Commentariess on the Constition in response to Justice Joseph Story’s view to see the fallacies of your response.
The question ultimately is: If the Republican
Party was actually the Party of small Government how did we end up $140 Trillion in debt? While only talking about $16 Trillion of it? And of that 25% is Government spending which is overhead to the taxpayer.
Perhaps, I should mention another avenue for your exploration and that is Charles A. Dana (Brook Farm) who was Marx & Engel’s editor at Greeley’s NY Daily Tribune for 9 years prior to the War he went on to become one Stanton’s of Stanton’s chielf staff members ..... Try reading Marx & Engels on the American Civil War. You might be surpised to see the link between the Union Army and militant Germans from the failed Socialist’s revolutions of 1848. Names like Weydemeyer, Sigel and Schurz.
It doesn’t seem to me that one can fix anything with out knowing exactly how it was broken in the first place...
To this end, I don’t think Buckley and others were helpful.
T.R. was representative not the exception.
Best,
Shubel


51 posted on 10/04/2012 9:31:21 AM PDT by Shubel
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To: Shubel
I am proud to assert that my great-grandfather served under Stonewall Jackson from First Manassas through Chancellorsville and did not surrender until Appomattox.


52 posted on 10/04/2012 10:36:29 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Your musings humble we mere Screamers

Well done....i concur


53 posted on 10/04/2012 10:40:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Hardraade

Mitt sees the problem as Obama in office. He has not and will not address the increasing lawlessness of the fedgov. He’s fighting for a job. He is not fighting for the Republic.


54 posted on 10/04/2012 2:15:42 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: TalBlack

Don’t bother. Your non-analysis is not interesting.


55 posted on 10/04/2012 2:30:49 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade

“Don’t bother. Your non-analysis is not interesting.”

Sheesh! You’re a weirdly hostile dude. Whatever.


56 posted on 10/04/2012 3:09:05 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: nathanbedford
That is great.

I am going to be in Charleston for about a week but I would love to talk with you more about that.....when I get back.

Figure out who/where Stonewall worked before the CSA and you will have found my G-G-Grandfather.

What I am trying to get you to see is analogous to finding the arrow in the FedEx logo. Once you see it. It (the pieces of the puzzle) becomes dominant in your new view......

Otherwise, Why study history?

Best,

Shubel

57 posted on 10/05/2012 6:07:09 AM PDT by Shubel
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