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Obamacare and Romneycare Are Not Identical
Townhall ^ | 10/04/2012 | Debra Saunders

Posted on 10/04/2012 7:42:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Democrat_media

Guess you didn’t read my post or understand it. It’s not all about whether Romneycare was constitutional and Obamacare not. It’s not about whether Mitt will go through with scuttling it. It’s about whether it was a good idea in itself, which it wasn’t, and about whether it indirectly helped Obama nationalize healthcare, which it did.


21 posted on 10/04/2012 8:07:34 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind
Santorum said that both Obamacare and Romneycare had death panels.
22 posted on 10/04/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Democrat_media

Statist socialism is statist socialism, whether done on a national scale, or piecemeal, state by state.

And while he occasionally pays lip service to federalism, he defends practically every unconstitutional, anti-tenth amendment federal program, including and especially the centerpieces of the New Deal and the Great Society. He is a reliable defender of big government social tinkering across a wide variety of areas not covered by the Enumerated Powers.

He doesn’t oppose big government or socialism. He simply thinks he can do it better than Obama. Which is probably true.

Congratulations on your big “win.”


23 posted on 10/04/2012 8:09:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If your only choice is evil, you've either died and gone to hell, or you're a Republican.)
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To: Tublecane

All you do is repeat democrat and MSM spin.

your agenda is obvious.

that POS communist Obama , Amnesty giving dictatorial POS got crushed last night. LOL


24 posted on 10/04/2012 8:09:41 AM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Democrat_media

You are about as nimble or subtle as that tack Hannity. Is there anything you can say that’s not a talking point you’ve already posted seven times?


25 posted on 10/04/2012 8:10:01 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Democrat_media

New tagline ...


26 posted on 10/04/2012 8:11:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Congratulations on your big 'win.' Obviously, Romney is a much more capable socialist than Obama.)
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To: EternalVigilance

wtf, did you LISTEN or UNDERSTAND what Romney said in the debate?

Romney said it’s not for the federal government to limit our freedom and choices in healthcare.

Everything Romney said was for limiting the federal government. Romney said he will repeal Obamacare, repeal dod frank, reduce regulations , even privatize medicare. you all probably didn’t understand any of that. Not even Reagan proposed privatizing medicare. oh yeah even that is not Conservative to you all. Romney said he thinks the free market works better than government and will allow the private sector to compete with medicare so that will be the destruction of medicare. but you call that a socialist when it is the opposite . that’s called freedom , limiting the FEDERAL government as the constitution intended. if the people(nuts) in Massachusetts want some socialist program let them , that is the lab.

This is what he said not without your filter, without the MSM filter.


27 posted on 10/04/2012 8:11:49 AM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Democrat_media

“your agenda is obvious”

I should have expected this level of thought. You are obviously in myopic campaign mode.


28 posted on 10/04/2012 8:12:49 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Talking points? LOL.This is just what I saw last nite.

Romney destroyed your POS marxist, communist ,POS Obama

go vote for Obama you fool no one


29 posted on 10/04/2012 8:15:22 AM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The NY slimes and politico both say Romneycare didn't reign in costs. Googling shows several articles saying Romneycare didn't reign in costs. (but do you trust google?)

Did Romneycare Control Health Care Costs?

After Six Years of RomneyCare, Mass. Imposes Healthcare Price Controls

30 posted on 10/04/2012 8:16:22 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Democrat_media

Why would I want to let the people in Mass. experiment with socialism? Not that I’d send the army in, or something, but it is bad wherever it’s tried. States may be “laboratories off freedom,” but the fredom to Rene t freedom is not an experiment in freedom. It is the opposite. It’s still an experiment in differentness from other states, but who cares? Wrong is wrong and Romneycare is wrong.

I don’t care if it was constitutional. Good for Rombey tor having some limits. But it’s not enough.


31 posted on 10/04/2012 8:18:37 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind
This one is from the WSJ.

RomneyCare 2.0 With costs rising fast, Massachusetts moves to dictate medical care.

32 posted on 10/04/2012 8:21:06 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Democrat_media

If you basically cut and paste a sentence or paragraph no matter whom you’re posting to and what they’re specifically arguing, yeah, those are talking points.

By the way, it’s not just what he said last night. He’s been saying it since before the primaries, since Romneycare for obvious reasons hounds him.


33 posted on 10/04/2012 8:21:43 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Romney said he will repeal Obamacare because that is not the province of the federal government , also wants to privatize medicare , to let the private sector compete with medicare, reduce regulations, repeal Dod frank, etc. So you must be against all that right? Yes because you are against Romney. well then you are the socialist as your Obama is. But you say this is the same as Obama but it is the opposite of Obama.
34 posted on 10/04/2012 8:22:19 AM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: GeronL

“Obamacare and Romneycare are not identical. They are very different. Romney worked to promote flexibility;... “

Do you have an issue with the Government supplying ANY healthcare services to anyone ?

Or do you have an issue with a specific provision ?


35 posted on 10/04/2012 8:36:11 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958
Government supplying ANY healthcare services

Not their job

36 posted on 10/04/2012 8:40:55 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Democrat_media; EternalVigilance

_media, you are not going to get Romney “haters” to change - IMO they want Obama to be re-elected so they have someone to complain about, and can appear “even more conservative” than the rest of us by complaining about the GOP.

I suppose it makes them feel superior.

The object is kick Obama out of office.... remember.


37 posted on 10/04/2012 8:42:54 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: GeronL

so your not good with Medicare or Medicaid ?

my granny will be pissed.


38 posted on 10/04/2012 12:09:24 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: GeronL
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GeronL ... you're just a "hater" ... and a religious bigot on top of that too ...

"shame on you" ...


/sarcasm-off ...



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39 posted on 10/04/2012 1:49:38 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

lolz


40 posted on 10/04/2012 1:52:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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