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To: sitetest

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Here’s what Romney’s website says about these particular issues:

- Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies (Exactly how is he planning on doing this? More specifics, please.)
- Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment (again, how? specifics please?)
- Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage (and what if you get too sick to maintain ‘continuous coverage’? what then? Is he going to repeal the part of ObamaCare that protects people for pre-existing conditions that they acquired before they turned 19?)

NO. Romney is NOT sufficiently addressing these issues.

If vague platitudes satisfy you, great. But I’m not waiting to ‘pass the bill before we know what’s in it’ again.


102 posted on 10/06/2012 10:34:57 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Marie
Dear Marie,

“You don’t know what you’re talking about.”

I think you're projecting. ;-)

“- Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies (Exactly how is he planning on doing this? More specifics, please.)”

There are entire bodies of research on these topics. Folks who pay attention, who do a little reading, who do a little research, have some idea of what these are about, and what the overall policy initiatives will mean for health care. How will they be specifically implemented? Who knows? Last time I checked, presidents don't get to unilaterally write laws. President Romney will need to negotiate all the details with Congress.

It is more than specific-enough to understand the specific outline of his policies, without knowing what details will ultimately be negotiated.

“- Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment (again, how? specifics please?)”

Again, anyone with a modest awareness of these policy concepts AND ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATIONS IN ACTUAL STATES understands the issues at hand, and understands, approximately, what roles high risk pools, reinsurance and risk adjustment will play in an overall plan. Again, presidents don't get to unilaterally write laws. Details will need to be negotiated.

“- Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage (and what if you get too sick to maintain ‘continuous coverage’? what then? Is he going to repeal the part of ObamaCare that protects people for pre-existing conditions that they acquired before they turned 19?)”

This point doesn't cover issues related to those who haven't been able to maintain continuous coverage. This is a reiteration of what was done in HIPAA (in 1996, not from Obamacare). This is a promise to continue and expand what HIPAA started.

“If vague platitudes satisfy you, great. But I’m not waiting to ‘pass the bill before we know what’s in it’ again.”

These are specific policy proposals. They are about as detailed as they get in a presidential campaign. They are certainly more detailed than anything we got from the Kenyan anti-Christ in 2008.

No one is asking anyone to “pass the bill before we know what's in it.” That was the DEMOCRAT idea. We're only being asked to elect someone who can then go on and negotiate specific legislation, and THEN we'll see it before it's passed.

Frankly, Marie, I'm starting to come to the conclusion that you're a pro-Obama troll. Your arguments are generally uninformed by either fact or logic, they're generally without merit, they confuse important issues regarding to health insurance and health care (such as your apparent confusion between COBRA and high risk pool insurance). Perhaps you're not a troll. Perhaps you just don't have the means to understand the issues at hand. If that's the case, my apologies.


sitetest

105 posted on 10/06/2012 11:10:30 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Marie

“You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Here’s what Romney’s website says about these particular issues:

- Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies (Exactly how is he planning on doing this? More specifics, please.)
- Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment (again, how? specifics please?)
- Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage (and what if you get too sick to maintain ‘continuous coverage’? what then? Is he going to repeal the part of ObamaCare that protects people for pre-existing conditions that they acquired before they turned 19?)

NO. Romney is NOT sufficiently addressing these issues.

If vague platitudes satisfy you, great. But I’m not waiting to ‘pass the bill before we know what’s in it’ again.”


I think the greatest solution is to get the government out of the business of healthcare entirely, as laws have tended to favor the big healthcare businesses allowing them to, for example, sell a vaccine for 1 to 2 thousand dollars which, in Mexico, one can get for less than a hundred dollars. In fact, I often get medicines from Mexico without a prescription that I have to pay hundreds of dollars here (and a doctor’s visit) to get. It is because of laws like EMTALA and the government’s institutional meddling in the healthcare business that it becomes necessary to spend money on Insurance so the insurance can spend thousands more for things that are 5 to 6 times more costly than the cost would be in a real market. When it comes to the healthcare industry, the government has taken the same policy the Europeeons do with their entire economy: Corporatism, where they favor businesses and actively resist or block other providers for moving in.

People keep saying Romney is a businessman who knows how to fix things. But, it’s a lie, as Romney invented the current ObamaCare abomination with all the same fixes he now allegedly condemns. But even his fixes are vague, and often he confuses goals with specifics. The end result is that the government will still be subsidizing healthcare, but only temporarily, because the costs have been increasing at roughly 7 percent every year and only escalate the more we meddle with it. It is an unsustainable system that will be brought to collapse. And when it collapses, perhaps then we can start new with a free market system. We have no leadership with no real ideas.


107 posted on 10/06/2012 11:27:46 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Marie
Romney is NOT sufficiently addressing these issues [pre-existing conditions].

How, then, would you address them?

Serious question.

108 posted on 10/06/2012 12:01:15 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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