Once-reluctant Mitt Romney opens up on the campaign trail - “Clear Eyes. Full Hearts. Can’t Lose!”

Washington Post ^ | October 6, 2012 | Philip Rucker,

[RaisingCain]

“Wait until the muslin brotherhood is raping you and those you love, courtesy of those one you espouse tonight...I’ll take magic underwear any day.”

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Meanwhile, you haven’t offered a single word of defense for your gay-agenda leading candidate except by attacking me. Don’t slap me while wearing your magic underwear.

[RaisingCain]

“Anyone interested can study up on what Mormons believe, rather than take your fevered word for it.”

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Yes, but you’re not interested, so you’re taking a position that no major denomination agrees with. The Bible itself does not agree with it.

[RaisingCain]

“Amazing that you should know that.”

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Amazing that you didn’t! It’s almost as if you were born yesterday, instead of living through the primaries where all this stuff about Mitt got fleshed out a long time ago, over and over again. We even have a fellow on here who doesn’t even know what Mormonism teaches, despite the fact that there was almost a thread per-day on Mormonism back during the primaries.

My how the times have changed! My how politics beats truth every time!

[skeeter]

What is my position? What are the positions of the major donominations? Be as specific as you like.

Or provide ANY proof at all to back up your claims for a change.

[RaisingCain]

“What is my position? What are the positions of the major donominations? Be as specific as you like.
Or provide ANY proof at all to back up your claims for a change.”

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“Is Mormonism a cult?
by Matt Slick

Yes, Mormonism is a cult. Mormonism, also called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), is not considered to be Christian by Christians. In fact, Mormonism teaches the following non Christian, non biblical doctrines. (Note that all the documentation is taken from Mormon writers and Mormon scriptures.)

God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).
“The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s...” (Doctrines and Covenants 130:22).
God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
“God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354.)
There is a mother god, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).
The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35.).
In contrast to these teachings, Christianity the Bible teaches that God has always been God and was never a man (Psalm 90:2). The Bible no where says he lives near another star or that the Father has a body of flesh and bones — which Christ contradicted in John 4:24 and Luke 24:39. We do not have the potential of becoming gods because there are no gods formed (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8; 45:5). The Trinity is one God (Deut. 6:4), not three.

There are numerous books written about Mormonism from a biblical perspective, exposing its false teachings.

Of course, we do not hate the Mormons and we pray for their repentance from believing in false gods. But, Mormonism is not Christian.”

http://carm.org/is-mormonism-cult

And for those of you who are Catholic:

“Question from Mai Lee on 3/12/2001:
What does the Catholic Church say about the practices and beliefs of Mormonism?

Answer by Catholic Answers on 3/13/2001:
While individual Mormons may be persons of good conscience, Mormonism itself is a belief system that is blasphemous in two major respects:

1) It is a polytheistic religion (a religion that believes in more than one god) that would reduce the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit from being the three Persons of the one, true, and infinite God, the Creator of all, to being just three limited, finite deities among an uncounted multitude of deities, none of whom were the Creator of all but who instead merely reshaped small parts of a preexisting cosmos.

2) It teaches that human beings may, by practicing the tenets of its faith, transmogrify to become gods and goddesses themselves, with their own planets full of people worshipping them.

While the Catholic Church would reject nothing that is true or good in Mormonism, like other world religions, Catholic theology would have to note that there is a tremendous amount in Mormonism that is neither true nor good, the two above points being the primary examples.

Further, because Mormonism presents itself as a form of Christianity, yet is utterly incompatible with the historic Christian faith, sound pastoral practice would need to *warn* the Christian faithful that Mormon theology is blasphemous, polytheistic, and cannot be considered as on a par with the theology of other Christian groups.”

http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=360906&Pg=&Pgnu=&recnu=

[1035rep]

The Supreme Judicial Court held that “barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and
obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the
Massachusetts Constitution.”

The MA Supreme Judicial Court ordered the state’s legislature to do whatever it took to make gay marriage legal in the Commonwealth. It was not the legislature and it was not the executive. It was the judicial.

The case is HILLARY GOODRIDGE & others vs. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH & another. 440 Mass. 309; March 4, 2003 - November 18, 2003; Suffolk County.

[MayflowerMadam]

Yes; the Mormon church is a whacky cult/religion. So is Black Liberation Theology.

Bottom line. I don’t give a rat’s ass what a person’s religion is as long as he loves America and is a strict Constitutionalist.

[skeeter]

Hey this is easy.

[RaisingCain]

“The Supreme Judicial Court held that “barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and
obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the
Massachusetts Constitution.”

The MA Supreme Judicial Court ordered the state’s legislature to do whatever it took to make gay marriage legal in the Commonwealth. It was not the legislature and it was not the executive. It was the judicial.

The case is HILLARY GOODRIDGE & others vs. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH & another. 440 Mass. 309; March 4, 2003 - November 18, 2003; Suffolk County.”

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“As Mitt Romney prepares for his second presidential campaign and gay marriage threatens to undermine America’s Judeo-Christian culture, there’s a raging debate about the role he played in instituting gay marriage in Massachusetts during his gubernatorial term. This is important because Governor Romney has positioned himself as a champion of traditional values and claims to have been an opponent of homosexual marriage his entire career.
When the Massachusetts Supreme Court issued a decision in favor of homosexual marriage, — the Goodridge case — Romney unilaterally ordered his state agencies to implement homosexual marriage in Massachusetts. The court did not order him to do this nor had the legislature codified this ruling. Combined with a promise by President Obama to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act, this action by Romney has led significantly contributed to the spread of homosexual marriage nationwide.
Make no mistake; Romney’s action was utterly illegal. In four different parts of the Massachusetts Constitution, it is clearly stated that only the legislature can change laws and one section specifically states that the marriage statutes are determined by the legislature, not by the courts. Even the Supreme Court itself stated that it could not order the legislature to act. All Romney had to do was to declare the court had no authority to enforce its unconstitutional opinion and ignore its decision.
But instead of doing that, Romney abruptly claimed the court opinion was now the law of the land and ordered his Town Clerks and Justices of the Peace to marry homosexuals — even though the legislature never acted to codify the ruling. Indeed, according to a Fox News/AP story, the attorney for the homosexual plaintiffs in Goodridge, held the view that the legislature would have to codify the Goodridge ruling:”

Rest at http://www.romneyexposed.com/2011/07/25/is-mitt-romney-the-father-of-gay-marriage-twenty-four-reasons-why-he-is/

[fireman15]

RisingCain as usual is playing mind games. His pseudonym refers to a movie. He likes to pick pseudonyms with from weird movies and books like when he was using Enderwiggins and claiming to be the youngest West Point Graduate in the history of the institution. That is why he is afraid to share even the crap that he makes up about himself at this point. It is too easy to disprove. It is all a game with him; I am pretty sure that he collects a check for his trouble. Although sparing with him can be mildly amusing; it is counterproductive.

Raising Cain - storyline Jenny Nix, wife of eminent child psychologist Carter Nix, becomes increasingly concerned about her husband's seemingly obsessive concern over the upbringing of their daughter. Her own adulterous affair with an old flame, however, causes her to neglect her motherly duties until a spate of local kidnappings forces her to accept the possibility that he may be trying to recreate the twisted mind-control experiments of his discredited psychologist father.

[RaisingCain]

“Hey this is easy.”

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Wow, so I guess you believe John Calvin wasn’t a Christian either. Are you a Catholic or something? But even the Catholics condemn Mormonism, which is why I provided a source from EWTN. I also provided the entire quot from CARM since it quoted Mormon theology, supporting my claims, which apparently you consider more Christian than Calvinism. Great! So believing your god has sex on planet Kolob and was once a mortal man is equal to believing in predestination.

[aposiopetic]

You made clear your pro-Obama agenda soon after your arrival at FR a few short months ago:

I’d rather Mitt be severely damaged than to have to deal with him for 4 years, and have to campaign for him again after that since we wouldn’t even have the option to nominate a conservative. Better to let Obama have the Presidency

I don't intend to waste more bandwidth dealing with your nonsense.

P.S. Hope your guy Barry loses. Most of the rest of us here are working to make sure he does.

[RaisingCain]

“RisingCain as usual is playing mind games. His pseudonym refers to a movie. He likes to pick pseudonyms with from weird movies and books like when he was using Enderwiggins and claiming to be the youngest West Point Graduate in the history of the institution. “

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I’ve never seen that movie. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for going into a psychotic episode and bringing it to my attention.

[1035rep]

“there’s a raging debate about the role he played in instituting gay marriage in Massachusetts during his gubernatorial term”

Nice try OBot. They can rage and debate all they want but the court ruling can be found at findlaw.com

[fireman15]

My pleasure, you fun loving troll.

[RaisingCain]

“You made clear your pro-Obama agenda soon after your arrival at FR a few short months ago:”

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That took some serious research on your part to dig up that quote. I take it you couldn’t meet my challenge and demonstrate how Romney isn’t everything I’ve said he is.

I’ll repeat that point I was making quite often months ago then. Better we collapse with Obama, then collapse under a Obama-lite Presidency. At least in 2016 we’ve get another chance. With Mittens, the economic collapse is inevitable since he supports the same failed policies that got us into this mess to begin with.

[RaisingCain]

“Nice try OBot. They can rage and debate all they want but the court ruling can be found at findlaw.com”

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Too bad the court ruling could have been ignored, as my article demonstrates, MittBot.

[jwalsh07]

It’s not about the approach it’s about the man. Mitt Romney is a good man, a better man than I was led to believe.

[1035rep]

“With Mittens, the economic collapse is inevitable since he supports the same failed policies that got us into this mess to begin with.”

He does not support Obama’s failed policies.

[1035rep]

Are you a fool, OBot?