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Those cement bubbles on sidewalk corners are costing you a lot of money! (858 Million)
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 10/08/2012 | Stu Bykofsky

Posted on 10/08/2012 10:41:15 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

First time hearing those words? The little bumps under your feet are picking the city's pocket.

Truncated domes - also known as "tactile warning strips" - are those bumps the size of elevator call buttons that blister the surface of recently installed ramps at street corners, by order of the feds. The cost to the city - meaning you, the taxpayer - is astronomical.

The outlay is required by changing federal regulations, according to Terry Gillen, director of federal affairs for the city of Philadelphia. She is, in effect, the liaison to President Obama from Mayor Nutter, who has been a ferocious advocate for the president's re-election. --snip-- The cost of installing the now-mandated ramps at each of the city's 22,000 intersections will be $858 million,

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ada; cementbubbles; cementdomes; philadelphia; sidewalks; tactilewarningstrips; warningstrips
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To: GladesGuru
The ‘unseen hand of the market’ disagrees with you, it would appear.

The unseen hand is full of it, and my experience proves it. The unit I installed was a single piece stool with a 3.5 inch flapper valve and it performs flawlessly. Maybe you should get yourself some real life experience and then you can comment intelligently on whether they work or not.

61 posted on 10/09/2012 12:31:21 PM PDT by itsahoot (I'll write in Palin in 2012. That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: okie01
Typically, they still jackhammer out the old ramps and pour new ones with the composite truncated domes or the pour a new one with a void in which to place the truncated dome pavers over a sand base. It's an insane waste of money.
62 posted on 10/09/2012 4:13:15 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Colorado Doug
It's an insane waste of money.

There is no doubt of that. And, now, they will have done it twice.

The cost-benefit-value equation is foreign to government agencies.

63 posted on 10/09/2012 6:54:38 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: itsahoot

“The ‘unseen hand of the market’ disagrees with you, it would appear.”

“The unseen hand is full of it, and my experience proves it.”

If the ‘unseen hand’ is actually full of it, then that particular hand is likely attached to a Muslim

“The unit I installed was a single piece stool with a 3.5 inch flapper valve and it performs flawlessly.”

Nice to know that, but the market for the old style units exists and said existence says much about public experience with the “Low Volume Units”.

“Maybe you should get yourself some real life experience and then you can comment intelligently on whether they work or not.”

My, my - I didn’t mean to hit a nerve. However, do note that you are unaware of what properties I have owned, or what can be done to plumbing by either the public (business toilets) or residential Tenants-From-Hell acting out their inadequacies of the toilet..


64 posted on 10/09/2012 7:46:00 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru
I have owned, or what can be done to plumbing by either the public (business toilets) or residential Tenants-From-Hell acting out their inadequacies of the toilet..

No toilet will flush properly when you have put diapers or shoes or weapons in them.

Contractors and rental property owners have little incentive to use new technology usually, but not always because of cost in adopting a new standard.

The stools I installed were standard old fart design, they were less than $150.00 and I was amazed at the performance. You are never too old to learn something new. Flushes are almost instant.

I remember when Stainless Steal razor blades were first introduced. Old timers were still whetting their Gillette double edge blades, in the handy box you could buy for a quarter. Hard to find those today and they were much cheaper.

65 posted on 10/10/2012 9:27:46 AM PDT by itsahoot (I'll write in Palin in 2012. That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: shotgun
These are mandated by the American with Disabilities Act and there is no way around it.

Sure there's a way around it.

Two ways, in fact.

1) Municipalities can tell Fedzilla to pound sand.

2) Congress can repeal the bloody ADA.

It's a mere act of Congress, not a law of nature.

66 posted on 10/10/2012 9:32:01 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: itsahoot
Truth is new toilet design has improved the process such that no matter how much water you used in the older toilets, you won't get as reliable a result as you will with the newer toilets.

That's true.

It's also completely irrelevant, and repugnant to a Constitutional Republic.

NOWHERE is the federal government, NOWHERE is any state government, delegated the authority to dictate toilet design.

That was a pure and simple power-grab; an act of tyranny.

67 posted on 10/10/2012 9:35:03 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Granted your points are valid but:

1)Most, if not all, local public agencies do not want to be the test case in a lawsuit.

and

2) And you have some confidence that Congress have the balls to do this!


68 posted on 10/10/2012 9:46:20 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun
And you have some confidence that Congress have the balls to do this!

Congress????

Balls????

ROFL!!!!!!

But seriously ... As 'conservatives' or 'constitutionalists', our political goals must include repeal of a whole lot of BS that the leftists have rammed through congress. It's necessary, IMO, to start pounding this concept on congressthings, congressional candidates, and our fellow citizens.

"It's the law" need not be the end of the discussion.

Laws can be repealed, and many of them should be repealed.

REPEAL the ADA.

69 posted on 10/10/2012 9:52:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

It’s also completely irrelevant, and repugnant to a Constitutional Republic.

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As is your statement. All I did was make an observation, toilets would probably have evolved without the mandate, but for what ever reason they are improved.


70 posted on 10/11/2012 10:11:07 PM PDT by itsahoot (I'll write in Palin in 2012. That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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