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Men jailed after sniper rifle found in back of minicab in South Croydon
Croydon Toda ^ | 9 Oct 2012 | GarethD2011

Posted on 10/09/2012 9:28:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog

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To: smokingfrog

Five year mandatory sentence for simple possession of unlicensed firearms. Far more than they give to rapists and arsonists.


61 posted on 10/09/2012 11:32:51 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ltc8k6
That’s the way they think...

That's crap.

"Lethal weaponry that is typically associated with the most dangerous of criminals?"

"Owned solely by those intent on causing serious harm?"

"Our officers deserve huge credit?"

"London is far safer with these individuals and weapons off the streets?"

This is no better than the histrionic bu!!5h!t spouted by Middle Eastern despots or African autocrats.

62 posted on 10/09/2012 11:40:32 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Talisker
A combined 61 years in prison for a .22 rifle? Dear God!

How can any worthwhile society do that to "free" men?

63 posted on 10/09/2012 11:47:53 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Domangart

Favorite caliber of wet work folks worldwide...the humble .22


64 posted on 10/09/2012 11:50:41 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 1066AD

It’s been common for decades.


65 posted on 10/09/2012 11:56:30 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: papertyger
A bow and arrow can be lethal at a hundred yards too, but you don't see anyone with the sense of a squirrel buying the idea it's a terrorist weapon.

What makes a weapon a terrorist weapon is the way it is employed, not the weapon itself.

If someone used that bow and arrow from the upper deck and fired into a crowd at a packed stadium...you have a terrorist weapon. The idea of a terrorist weapon is to induce terror.

If effective, the crowd can kill more of its own in panic, trying to get out of the way than the killer gets with the weapon, but the real measure of effectiveness is what changes are made to a society as a result.

Here, the terrorists won. We have given up our right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, have created whole agencies to spy on our own people, and tossed our Rights away wholesale while the most likely perpetrators of terrorist acts go through unscreened so we don't appear to be profiling. Not only ineffective, but incredibly expensive theater to try to convince the masses they are 'safe'.

...And we have yet to secure our borders.

66 posted on 10/10/2012 12:15:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: VanShuyten

to #26. I agree. The only rifle I’ve ever shot was my .22 cal Remington but at 75-100 feet (all the clear field of fire I had), I could easily put a couple rounds through your eyes without any problem. 22LR has some good velocity to them and 22LR Hollow Points are even more deadly.

My son was a sharpshooter in Iraq with the M249 light machine gun (250 rd clip cartridge box). Qualified at 1000 yards. There are several dead Iraqi terrorists who found out that it’s both the weapon and the operator who will kill you.

Never underestimate someone’s ability to take you out. Al Qaeda’s first known kill in the US was with a knife (Rabbi Meir Kahane in NYC, early 1990’s.) Silenced .22’s were the favorite murder weapon of the Mafia (and a damned good gun if there ever was one).

It is what one is planning to do with a weapon that is important. The weapon is secondary.


67 posted on 10/10/2012 12:24:55 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: barmag25; 1066AD
>>22lf hollow point. Winchester makes them. Buy them in boxes of 333 rounds.

I prefer the big boxes of more than 500.


68 posted on 10/10/2012 1:15:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: smokingfrog

These bobbies would have kittens if they ever saw an average FReeper gun safe.


69 posted on 10/10/2012 1:16:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

The Bobbies would soil themselves if they saw the contents of my gun safes


70 posted on 10/10/2012 2:00:23 AM PDT by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: papertyger
FIVE men have been jailed after a sniper rifle was found in the boot of a minicab in South Croydon. .....the .22 bolt-action rifle and hollow-point ammunition - designed to cause maximum injury .....

Pure fail.

71 posted on 10/10/2012 2:16:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: papertyger

Did you know if you shot at the sun with this rifle, you could put it out?


72 posted on 10/10/2012 2:18:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Domangart

It’s a freakin’ .22 rifle, clown.


73 posted on 10/10/2012 2:23:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

Anyone laughing at the idea of a .22 sniper rifle should be aware that the British government handed these out to the Home Guard Auxiliary units in order to carry out assassination missions and go on silent patrols. A headshot with these rifles was lethal.

As for this case, I agree that it sucks that these guns are illegal without a firearms certificate, but the circumstances of this case makes me believe that they were up to no good and that they were indeed going to use this gun on someone...


74 posted on 10/10/2012 2:29:58 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: 1066AD

Meanwhile career criminals continue to laugh.


75 posted on 10/10/2012 2:40:03 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: gitmo
If I ever find out where the heck Sough Croydon is, I’ll make a point of staying clear.

I figured this was somewhere in England from the place names, but it would be nice if the narrowed it down. Don't you wonder why so few articles ever mention where in the world they are?

In US papers, finding the state is rare. "Man shot during Greenville break-in." Never mind that there are 49 Greenvilles in the US. Sure, these are often local papers or TV stations, but there is no such thing as "local" anymore.

76 posted on 10/10/2012 2:42:58 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: papertyger

You know, without the /s tag some folks on this board just won’t get it.


77 posted on 10/10/2012 3:16:45 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: smokingfrog

OMG! I’ve got three in the hallway gun case - they’re the kid’s rifles.


78 posted on 10/10/2012 3:36:50 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Seen it right off.

Ya know I’m wondering what they would do to me if they ever pulled my truck over. I have a Panther Arms LR 308 with two loaded mags in hard case between the front and rear seats (thats my hog rifle). A Styer Pro Hunter 243 in a soft case in the passenger seat (thats my yote rifle). A Springfield 45 ACP Loaded Model in the upper console (that for two legged critters) and a 8 3/8ths S&W Model 48 in the lower console (thats for no legged critters). They’d probably hang me!
Allot of our night time hog hunters are now going to suppresed rifles is various slow moving calibers, the 300 Blackout seems to be the prefered round for that application. The use of thermal optics is also very popular.


79 posted on 10/10/2012 3:52:31 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: smokingfrog; barmag25; coloradan; 1066AD; tumblindice; Vendome; BenLurkin; Robert357; ...

‘Scarface’ thug bought sniper rifle for London gang warfare

‘A convicted robber who worships movie gangster Tony Montana has been jailed for 15 years for buying a sniper rifle and silencer while released on licence.

Nathaniel Tracey, 27, travelled to Reigate with three other men to buy the .22 rifle, fitted with a silencer and 62 rounds of ammunition for just for just £600.

Tracey had been jailed for seven years in 2007 for a string of meat cleaver robberies in Streatham, including one where a surgeon was savagely beaten when he did not hand his laptop.

The thug, who wrote rap lyrics about his criminal exploits, idolised Al Pacino’s gangster Tony Montana and wore a Scarface jacket.

While out on licence Tracey, with Anthony Hosey, 28 Loyan Osman, 26 and Khadar Mire, 25, travelled to Redhill, Surrey to buy the Czechoslovakian sniper rifle from traveller Tyron Harding.

Gun dealer Harding, 45, was also on licence after serving 12 years for breaking into a pub in Epsom and tying up the landlord before making off with £1500.

Prosecutor Robert Ellison said the gang were under police surveillance and were arrested after they collected the gun in November last year.’

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/scarface-thug-bought-sniper-rifle-for-london-gang-warfare-8202447.html

Five jailed after sniper rifles seized

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/9972127.Five_jailed_after_sniper_rifles_seized/


80 posted on 10/10/2012 3:52:34 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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