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Lance Armstrong stands unmasked as the worst kind of cheat and liar
http://www.nydailynews.com/ ^ | october 11 2012 | NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Posted on 10/11/2012 9:22:50 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

So says the United States Anti-Doping Agency in a remarkably exhaustive report of its investigation into charges that Armstrong climbed to unprecedented stardom atop a bicycle with the aid of banned substances.

The document conclusively nails Armstrong with overwhelming sworn testimony, email correspondence, bank records and analyses of his blood samples.

It all but begs federal law enforcement authorities to refocus their attention on Armstrong after unexplainedly closing a probe — if only to consider indicting him for perjury.

Armstrong’s doping was no hit-and-miss proposition. It started in 1999 and went on for a decade. Under his command, it was highly organized and entailed surreptitious deliveries of prohibited substances, elaborate ruses to avoid blood tests and insistence that teammates participate.

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To: over3Owithabrain

I don’t think “everybody does it” is an excuse, it’s an acknowledgement of the truth. Check the tables near the bottom of this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France

Lots of red and yellow and orange. The vast majority of winners, and a less vast majority of top 10 finishers get busted.

As for the the hypothetical honest athlete that doesn’t do the drugs (and note, most of the drugs don’t actually ravage your body, not anymore, a lot fewer side effects), they “win” eventually, when everybody above them gets DQd. Or better yet they can go find a different profession, if you don’t want to dope stay away from track and cycling.


61 posted on 10/11/2012 11:08:50 AM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: discostu

“As for the the hypothetical honest athlete that doesn’t do the drugs (and note, most of the drugs don’t actually ravage your body, not anymore, a lot fewer side effects), they “win” eventually, when everybody above them gets DQd. Or better yet they can go find a different profession, if you don’t want to dope stay away from track and cycling.”

Nice. You should speak at schools with that inspiring message


62 posted on 10/11/2012 11:17:20 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Boogieman

LOL.

The NFL Hall of Fame is full of atheletes who used drugs to enhance their ability to play. Steroids, amphetamines, and painkillers were doled out like candy at a Halloween Party.

MLB has so many cheats populating the “ALL TIME” record book, it is hard to take it seriously.

Every MAJOR sport in America was/is OVERFLOWING with “juicers” and the sport and athelete they fixate on is Lance Armstrong and the EUROPEAN sport of cycling!?

This story is 10 years old. EVERY top cyclist that raced against Armstrong was on drugs and a cheat. It WAS a level playing field. He won. If he suffers future health issues its all on him.

The bigger scandal: How many of my tax dollars were WASTED on this stupid investigation?


63 posted on 10/11/2012 11:42:00 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/biking/road-biking/My-Life-With-Lance-Armstrong.html?page=all

The bad side of Lance Armstrong. Vindictive, tries to destroy ex-teammates and those who loyally served him


64 posted on 10/11/2012 11:51:00 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw

http://www.bicycling.com/news/pro-cycling/5-questions-betsy-andreu

more bad and evil side of Lance


65 posted on 10/11/2012 11:53:52 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Reality isn’t often very inspiring. In fact most days reality is pretty discouraging. The reality of track and cycling is that the majority of the top athletes are doping, the reality of track and cycling is that a trophy handed out today will almost certainly be rescinded in 5 to 10 years, the reality of track and cycling today is that anybody that isn’t doping isn’t winning at the event though they might be getting a trophy in 5 to 10 years. And yeah it does suck for the honest athletes, I didn’t make it that way, I’m just pointing out the truth.


66 posted on 10/11/2012 12:09:24 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: babble-on
I recently read (confirmed PED cheater) Tyler Hamilton’s book, The Secret Race. It is an exhaustive description of his own and Armstrong’s (a teammate) elaborate cheating strategies. There was in fact a cheating arms race, and Armstrong was the market leader, always innovating.

That’s why the argument that “they all did it, so it was a level playing field” is incorrect. Armstrong did it earlier and better, and when someone like Hamilton threatened to overtake him, he turned his former friend in to the authorities.

Armstrong comes across not as a decent and honest athlete, but as a narcissistic sociopath, whose definition of “normal” was that it was when he won.

Sounds like it would be well worth the read for anyone venturing an opinion on this subject.

67 posted on 10/11/2012 12:42:56 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: trailhkr1

WITCH HUNT


68 posted on 10/11/2012 1:25:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obamaspeak: An army of pompous phrases marching across the landscape in search of an idea.)
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To: deport

“Apparently his lung and heart capacity was much superior to his competitiors.”

Not so much. http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/vo2max.htm


69 posted on 10/11/2012 3:20:23 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Lesser Evil 2012)
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To: LeonardFMason

If everyone’s cheating, it still doesn’t make them anything other than cheaters. The rules are what the rules are, even if nobody is following them. You can dream up a million excuses for the cheating, but it doesn’t change anything.

Also, I don’t see anyone “fixating” on Armstrong. We had a huge investigation with the baseball players few years ago, we investigate the Olympic athletes, and athletes from basically every sport constantly. The only thing special about Armstrong is that he has built up a cult of celebrity around himself, so it’s a bigger news story when he gets busted than when Joe Smith, the college track star gets busted.


70 posted on 10/12/2012 7:31:11 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: over3Owithabrain

I’m glad some people actually get that this is a matter of principle and we can’t equivocate on it. It’s bad enough that we let the athletes cheat their way through school academically. The least they could do is compete honestly on the playing field.


71 posted on 10/12/2012 7:35:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Slayton

“For some reason, your article fails the mention the dates that Armstrong had a test where he was found to have performance enhancing drugs in his urine or blood.”

Armstrong has never failed a blood test.

All they have are jealous underlings in the cycling world, saying he cheated.

Just more proof that all is accepted in America, except for success.


72 posted on 10/12/2012 7:42:31 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Boogieman

Are you kidding that the investigators weren’t fixate on Armstrong!? He has been THE target for years!

He is being sripped of all his Olympic Medals and Tour wins and rightfully so.

When will the record books in the MLB remove Bonds, Sosa, Clemens, MacGuire, Rodriguez and others? Why are their records allowed to stand? They were all as big a cheats as Armstrong. When will this agency anounce that these atheletes are being stripped of their records?


73 posted on 10/12/2012 9:45:38 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: LeonardFMason

I’m not going to sit here and pretend I know the best answer as to when they should strip titles and wins away and when they shouldn’t. I do know that they investigate multitudes of athletes in all sorts of sports, so the idea that Armstrong was targeted to the exclusion of others is ridiculous. Maybe they hit him with a stiffer penalty than is usual, but that doesn’t equate to ignoring everybody else that is cheating.


74 posted on 10/12/2012 9:59:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Eva
The point is that no one really cares.

I care.

75 posted on 10/12/2012 10:08:09 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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