[ballplayer]

it would be interesting to know where George Bush was in October of his Reelection bid,Since he had been hammered his entire first four years

[Arthurio]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_hth.html

Bush took a big hit after his first debate loss... but he was much further ahead at that point than Obama was when he crashed and burned in the debate.