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To: Senator Goldwater
Keep your landslide theory to yourself so you don't dilute enthusiasm or voter turnout.
Use your energy to turn around the FACT that the Republican Senate Election effort is absolutely the WORSE run effort in recorded history. Makes you think the elite Republican establishment wants the Senate to stay in DemocRat hands to preserve the STATUS QUO with Harry Reid in charge.

Regardless or who is President, the Senate MUST be won and the House majority maintained or we get no where. Wake the track up!!

14 posted on 10/15/2012 9:41:27 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: cashless

No, it doesn’t dilute enthusiasm, it demoralizes the opposition. If one side is talking about landslides, and the other side is praying that they still have a shot at winning, the more cocky the confident side acts, the more Undecided voters will perceive their candidate as a winner, and the more dispirited the other side will be.

This is especially true since Obama’s whole re-election campaign is based on a media driven attempt to portray his victory as “inevitable”. Remember when Hillary was perceived as inevitable, and how quickly she fell once that perception
was no longer there?

I’m not saying that we should just sit back and not hustle. I’m saying that the combination of boots on the ground and a sincere belief that our side will win is a lethal combination.


21 posted on 10/15/2012 10:31:26 PM PDT by The Fop (Excuse me while I clean the saliva out of my racist dog whistle)
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To: cashless

In this lefty corner of the world we can safely tell anyone we wish—none of them would believe us anyway!


23 posted on 10/15/2012 10:41:17 PM PDT by cgbg (No bailouts for New York and California. Let them eat debt.)
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To: cashless; Senator Goldwater
Let me see if I got this straight.

We should not predict a win for Romney by the evidence of our eyes such as the polls and the evidence cited by the author in this article because it will make potential Romney voters complacent and they will fail to go to the polls.

I suppose at the time when it appeared that Romney was behind we should have refrained from posting articles or making comments about those polls because it might discourage Romney voters who would refrain from voting.

It must be quite a trick knowing whether to encourage or discourage so we just do not say anything? We certainly cannot say anything intelligent if we do not know what is in the polls or what the arguments are. So are we just to shut up?

The problem with that is much of the discussion about those polls that had Romney behind was whether they were legitimate. It is very difficult to discuss the legitimacy of polls which are conditioning the mind of the electorate, not just conservatives or Republicans but liberals and Democrats and independents, without actually bringing up the polls. If we had not debunked the polls we would not know what we were talking about, we would not know if and when we are dealing with a relatively legitimate poll like Rasmussen.

If we do not know when a poll is legitimate we will not know whether in fact the electorate needs to be discouraged or if the electorate needs to be encouraged or what part of the electorate you think is in need of stimulus or sedative. We would not know where the hell we are.

The idea of this forum is that the give-and-take among thinking conservatives sooner or later gets us pretty close to the truth and to the truth of the facts. We cannot get there without give-and-take and we cannot get give-and-take unless we have the articles.

I trust conservatives as a group to get to the truth ultimately. I certainly do not trust conservatives or anybody else who form opinions without access to the facts.

I emphatically disagree with your admonition to Senator Goldwater and even more emphatically to your rebuke of him. I am thankful that he has posted this article and hope that he continues to post many more. I would prefer to be the judge of my own intellectual universe and not pass the red pencil of censorship to you.

Ultimately, we will never get the conservative victories the country indisputably needs if we fear the truth.


24 posted on 10/15/2012 11:42:14 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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