Romney’s Rust Belt Surge Threatens Obama’s Firewall

Foxnews.com ^ | Published October 18, 2012 | Chris Stirewalt

[GonzoII]

"Republicans saw some of their greatest gains in 2010 in these five states, picking up 11 House seats two Senate seats. But Democrats assumed that Romney, a second-generation CEO, would be unable to replicate the success"

Are they any less fired up now??

I think not.

[Opinionated Blowhard]

The sad part of this article is how uncompetitive Republicans have become in this region over the past 20 years. Through the 80s, the GOP picked up most of these states. Even after the 80s, the GOP picked up at least one or two of them. Now the GOP has to struggle to pick up one of them.

[Old Retired Army Guy]

It’s nice to hear these kind of things, but to make them believable, I will neeed to see Romney making some Ad Investments and appearances in PA and Michigan.

[Houghton M.]

If he’s going to call it the I-70 corridor, then it includes Indiana. Indiana has gone Republican several times over the period of time he references. It just did not do so in 2008. But that was the aberration.

If he really wants to talk about Rust Belt, predominantly Dem heartland states, his “I-70” corridor needs to loop north to include Michigan and exclude Indiana. And perhaps widen out at Illinois to grap Wisconsin and Missouri.

But it was a clever metaphor. Image over substance again.

[nhwingut]

Obama is up 4 in PA and MI and up 1 in WI - three traditional blue states which he won by double digits in 2008.

His so called firewall states (IA, NH, NV and OH) are essentially tied. So there is no firewall.

[Sacajaweau]

All Obama has to do is get out the vote. The numbers are with him unless half the Dems in Philly stay home.

It is possible to get Pa if we can capture Pittsburg.

[Buckeye McFrog]

That B.S. about how “the Democrats are the Party of the WORKIN’ MAN!” has been drilled very deep into people’s skulls around here for generations. It’s gonna take a major concerted effort to blow that apart.

[SC_Pete]

Let’s get those steel furnaces working again!!! Let’s use our cheap coal and cheap natural gas to revitalize our heavy industry. Let America manufacture again. Chinese Labor advantage? Use robots. Let’s make stuff again!!!

GOG, STEELERS!! (Man, that hurt.)

[SC_Pete]

Let’s get those steel furnaces working again!!! Let’s use our cheap coal and cheap natural gas to revitalize our heavy industry. Let America manufacture again. Chinese Labor advantage? Use robots. Let’s make stuff again!!!

GO, STEELERS!! (Man, that hurt.)

[Houghton M.]

Indiana has voted for the Republican presidential candidate for the last 40 years, except 2008.

http://www.270towin.com/states/Indiana

[GonzoII]

"Let’s make stuff again!!!"

Bump!...I'm gonna tattoo that on my forehead!!..;0)

[Beagle8U]

“Through the 80s, the GOP picked up most of these states. Even after the 80s, the GOP picked up at least one or two of them. Now the GOP has to struggle to pick up one of them.”

Did you know that in Nov 2010 Republicans took control of the entire state of Michigan? I'll guess that you didn't.

That's right, Dems control nothing on the state level.

Governor, House, Senate, SOS, AG, Courts, Everything is controlled by the Reps by veto-proof margins.

[PghBaldy]

3 homes on my mom’s street have Romney signs. It is a Pgh suburb, but I don’t recall that many signs for either candidate in 2008.

[kabar]

The tide has been changing in case you missed the 2010 midterms. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa all have GOP governors.

The state legislatures are controlled by the GOP in Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. In Iowa the GOP controls the House by two-thirds while the Dems control the Senate 26-24.

The GOP must get a handle on voter fraud in these states. If the Reps win Ohio, the race is over. And they certainly have good shots at the others. Obama is on the ropes. The pundits have failed to recognize the huge groundswell is this country fueled by the tea party and the silent majority of Americans who are sick and fed up with the direction of this country. The ultra-liberal Obama administration is out of step and out of touch with the American people. 2010 was just the opening salvo in the repudiation of Obama.

Here in VA, I have never seen such an energized and organized GOP, even in the liberal bastion of Fairfax County. The Obama administration has no idea of what is coming. "They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind."

[CaribCarter]

I’m living in PA, right outside of York. I honestly don’t see how Romney can possibly overcome the black and hispanic votes in York, Harrisburg, and Philly. Those cities are hellhole garbage dumps that are going to go overwhelmingly for their enabler.

[nhwingut]

Yeah. I don’t believe Romney has a shot in PA. It’s fool’s gold. My point is that these traditional blue states (MI, PA, WI) are razor edge now, and so the idea that Obama can somehow claim a firewall in traditional swing states (NH, NV, OH, IA) is laughable.

It’s a presupposition. There is no firewall.

[HamiltonJay]

The Rust Belt is overdue for a fundamental alignment shift, and with RADICALS ruling the democratic party, its going to happen. Democrats in the rust belt are not limosine liberals or hard core communists... With the extremists taking over the Democratic party the Rust Belt is due for a long term realignment as working class white voters abandon the party of Marx.

Will this happen? Well I don’t know this election it is going to happen, without doubt, and if the dems keep trying to legislate like this is a european social democracy a long term shift and realignment will occur in the rust belt states.

Obama never had a prayer carrying the rust belt.. YOu can’t piss in the faces of Catholics and Working Class Whites for 4 years and then tell them, they should be happy about it.

Obama has no chance at IA, IN, WI or OH.. not a damned one will go for him this time... IL and MN ar the only two safe states for Obama... MI and PA can swing... PA isn’t going to swing though if Romney put ads on the air... And so far, that’s not happenting in PA.

If it doesn’t Obama will likely hold PA but only by a very slim margin. And if PA is only held by a slim margin ther eis no way in heaven or hell that Obama will carry Ohio, WI, IN or IA. MI and PA have 2 big cities that skew their overall vote D by 5-8 points... If Obama is only up a point or two in PA, and/or MI he doesn’t have a prayer in states like OH, WI, IA and IN that do not have such megacities dragging them down.

I can tell you this much, PA is within a point or two with no ads for Romney on the airwaves, and if PA goes Romney election night without him even fighting for it, Obama will lose states NO ONE is even considering vulnerable.

I see Obama getting no more than 42-43% of the popular vote nationwide.. though due to the population distribution today the EC wont’ reflect just how massive a routing he’s going to get.

Fight like its neck and neck, but I honesly do not believe Obama can get over 42-43% of the vote, and he’ll be damned lucky to get that.

[AFPhys]

Shhhh... don’t tell anyone ... the real firewall this election is the Tea Party ... Shhhhhh ... please don’t tell.

[CaribCarter]

You’re right on target, and I didn’t mean to suggest that you thought PA was in play. IMHO, PA will never again be in play for Repubs until we see the “gentrification” of York, Harrisburg, and Philly.

York may have a chance, what with the upgrading of the area around the new ballpark. Harrisburg is decades away — there is now a mere two-block area where you can safely walk in the entire city, and the mayor is an exceptionally obtuse Obamunist. As to Philly, don’t know; haven’t been there since Rocky’s statue was at the top of the steps.

[kabar]

I’m living in PA, right outside of York. I honestly don’t see how Romney can possibly overcome the black and hispanic votes in York, Harrisburg, and Philly. Those cities are hellhole garbage dumps that are going to go overwhelmingly for their enabler.

PA is 83% white compared to the national average of 78.1%. 11.3% are black compared to the national average of 13.1%. Hispanics make up 5.9% of the population compared to the national average of 16.7%. The foreign born make only 5.6% of the population compared to the national average of 12.7%.

In terms of demographics, white voters will determine who wins PA. Voter fraud is the one variable that could make the difference in a close election. Prediction: Obama will not win PA by 10% like he did last time. It will be much, much closer.

Reps in blue, Dems in red -- 2008