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Study: Greek euro-exit could start €17-trillion “wildfire”
EU Observer ^ | 18.10.12 @ 09:24 (October 18) | Andrew Rettman

Posted on 10/19/2012 7:28:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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Oh yes, Bertelsmann, the biggest propaganda-maker for Adolf during WWII, back to scaremongering.
1 posted on 10/19/2012 7:28:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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$22 trillion would be major headache, no doubt about it.
2 posted on 10/19/2012 7:30:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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How would their exit cost $22 Trillion, is there that much funny money in the system?


3 posted on 10/19/2012 7:42:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai
The nightmare scenario of Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain leaving the euro could cost the world economy €17 trillion ($22 trillion), a new study says.

Why should it "cost the world economy" anything if several European countries were to leave the EuroZone? Or even if the EuroZone were to go out of existence altogether, forcing a return to the status quo ante in Europe?

I confess that I just don't get it...

4 posted on 10/19/2012 7:43:37 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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I say its unavoidable. The global economy is a house of cards and debts which cannot be repaid. The collapse is inevitable, so you might as well “bring it”.


5 posted on 10/19/2012 7:44:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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I hear people here asking "why" and doubting that calamity could take place.

Methinks they are too invested in their stocks and 401Ks to REALLY believe it could all collapse........so they attack the message.

6 posted on 10/19/2012 7:46:45 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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I dont understand, I am told that Greece has oil and nautural resources that can be sold, even islands. Why are not these issues being considered/


7 posted on 10/19/2012 7:57:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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Which would be answered by the demands for a more centralized Europe, which is their answer to everything


8 posted on 10/19/2012 8:03:02 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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22 trillion dollars... can that really be any worse than the money being bled right now as they continue to prop up this failed project? End it all. Shut down the EU, burn the flag, burn the Euros, put its bureaucrats on trial for treason and forget this whole mess.

Greece will be fine. It’s not like they haven’t gone through worse during their long, illustrious history.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 8:03:42 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Would you be okay with the USA selling off pieces of its states to China to pay off our debts?


10 posted on 10/19/2012 8:06:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Like I said: it’s scaremongering. Take note that the answer to this problem is the same answer that the eurocrats give to everything: “More Europe”, IOW more centralization and essentially the destruction of the nation-state (save one).


11 posted on 10/19/2012 8:08:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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So...Europe is supporting Greece and the others b/c they are insolvent. Supporting them with money that will never be repaid. So...if the countries leave the euro zone the remaining countries losses stop. How is that a loss again?
12 posted on 10/19/2012 8:21:37 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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Better ask the Eurocrats. They are the ones who want to keep all these countries in, due to their fanaticism over a “united Europe”.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 8:30:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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So...if the countries leave the euro zone the remaining countries losses stop. How is that a loss again?

It's an over-simplification, buy let's say Greece, et al, are EU 17 trillion in debt -- with their bonds held by banks and other country's treasuries.

If they default on that debt en masse, then EU 17 trillion in assets have just disappeared from those banks and treasuries.

By virtue of the default many of those banks will become insolvent, resulting in even greater losses.

Granted, the casee probably is that Greece et al will probably never be able to support the interest payments on those bonds or, heaven forfend, actually redeem them. So, default is a liklihood sooner or later, anyway. But, in the meantime, maintaining the fiction keeps EU 17 trillion in bonds in the asset column.

14 posted on 10/19/2012 8:43:09 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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Ah. I did not consider their debts performing since they are borrowing money from their lenders to pay them back. However I see your point. Thanks for the info.
15 posted on 10/19/2012 8:55:24 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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They shouldn't have to default, though. The payback terms are too draconian, and they include giving up their sovereignty anyhow as part of those terms.
16 posted on 10/19/2012 9:35:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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The socialists simply cannot seem to get it through their heads that they have run out of other people’s money.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 9:38:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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That happened a long time ago. But the euro was designed to create a crisis, so they could come charging in with some ready-made “solution” to save the day (which they have not yet revealed).


18 posted on 10/19/2012 9:40:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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PIGS should leave these UNaccountable Eurocrats, declare their independence, and set up as constitutionally limited republics renouncing socialism and triumphing individual rights. They could borrow our constitution. We’re not using it.


19 posted on 10/19/2012 9:56:54 PM PDT by PGalt
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That will happen anyway, by hook or by crook, unless the US starts
to get on a serious energy-independence track. Chicoms are investing in Alberta oil sands companies and in several other projects.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 10:44:07 PM PDT by rfp1234
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