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White Men, A Key GOP Demographic, Discuss The Romney Appeal
National Public Radio ^ | October 19, 2012 | Ari Shapiro

Posted on 10/19/2012 8:20:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For all the attention paid to women in this race, there's another gender gap — with white men.

The Republican ticket of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan campaigned in northeastern Florida on Friday, where thousands of men had descended on Daytona Beach for the annual motorcycle festival Biketoberfest.

A bunch of them were at Willie's Tropical Tattoo smoking cigarettes, drinking beer and listening to music.

Gary Biser goes by the name "Moose." Stickers on his bike helmet say, "Life's too short to ride with ugly women," "No bar too far," and other things that can't be printed. He says he is resigned to voting for Mitt Romney.

"I don't have anybody else to choose for, but he's gonna be my man," Biser says.

Biser works in the coal mines of rural Maryland. He says these past four years have been a disaster.

"Well, they've dropped our wages down, they've dropped our medical, everything else. Price of gas and everything's up. Shouldn't be that way," Biser says.

In this crowd, which is largely white men, there's a lot of enthusiasm for Republican ideas. People are less excited about the Republican nominee.

"I wish the Republican Party would quit finding multibillionaires to run just so they could get their message across," says Jerry Willard, who recently retired here in Florida.

Whatever his feelings about Romney, Willard says he hates that Democrats are trying to cut more deeply into wealthy people's incomes.

"Have you ever been hired by somebody that was broke? Have you ever been hired by somebody that was poor? Have you ever been hired by someone that was on welfare or food stamps?" he asks. "I don't think I ever have. I don't think I'm ever gonna get there. So the question is: Who the heck hires us? People with money."

There's no question who's going to win the votes in this crowd. In the last election, Barack Obama carried only 41 percent of white men, according to exit polls. And that was a high water mark for Democrats. John Kerry got 37 percent of the white male vote; Al Gore took only 36 percent.

So the important question is how big a margin among white men Romney will get this year. There's a lot of pressure to do better than Republicans have done before, since minority groups are booming.

"We do spend a lot of time in Florida talking about the growing Hispanic population and the growing black population of voters, but as a practical matter, there still are more white voters in Florida than there are other groups," says Aubrey Jewett, a political scientist at the University of Central Florida in Orlando.

Neither presidential candidate is a natural fit with this crowd, but they try. Obama welcomed NASCAR drivers to the White House back in April.

"These are some outstanding men. And it's true about the whole NASCAR organization," Obama said.

Romney made two rained-out attempts to see a race. Eventually he campaigned at the NASCAR Technical Institute in North Carolina.

"I only dreamed of cars like that. To have my name on a car like that is just too much," Romney said.

Perhaps it's no coincidence then that both men at the bottom of the ticket, Joe Biden and Paul Ryan, specialize in relating to working-class guys.

Even at Biketoberfest, this group is not a monolith. In the sea of sleeveless black T-shirts, tattoos and bandanas, one Obama supporter popped his head up.

"I like when they went after him for his birth certificate while he was going after bin Laden," says Ormond Beach, Fla., resident Bobby Sayward. "It's like this guy went right behind everybody's back and he got the job done. Why people don't vote for him is going to be an amazing thing to me."

In this sea of white men, the Obama voter is a true minority.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012issues; males; malevote; maryland; obama; romney; whitevote; whitevoters

1 posted on 10/19/2012 8:20:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL Subsidized writer for NPR write about “white men” and then “interviews” bikers . . .tattoos, beer, smokers, dopers, et al...

Such bias and desperation, all the while doin the lapdance for Commie Obommie


2 posted on 10/19/2012 8:25:21 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This the dirty secret of the 2012 elections liberals never discuss. Obama is way down with white men.

He isn’t going to get a majority of the white male vote. He has no chance of getting re-elected without it.

It just happens to be politically incorrect to mention the 110 pound gorilla in the room.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 8:26:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“It’s like this guy went right behind everybody’s back and he got the job done.”

The uninformed person in the bunch always seems to be the Obama voter.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 8:27:32 PM PDT by nodumbblonde ("I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's a** about the clueless." - Dennis Miller)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I wonder if he actually ever talked to the “pro-Obama” guy or is he a composite or ringer?


5 posted on 10/19/2012 8:28:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: nodumbblonde

Your typical Obama voter is upper class, a college kid slacker, a woman, an LGBT and a minority.

It never is a traditional white male.

Liberal regard for demographic diversity ends right there!


6 posted on 10/19/2012 8:31:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I’m surprised the author did not mention a Confederate flag.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 8:31:37 PM PDT by matt1234 (As Obama sowed in the Arab Spring, so he is reaping in the Arab Fall.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
LOL Subsidized writer for NPR write about “white men” and then “interviews” bikers . . .tattoos, beer, smokers, dopers, et al...

Yeah, but I prefer it to going to a country club and interviewing only white millionares for Romney.

Play that funky music white boy

8 posted on 10/19/2012 8:33:26 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: matt1234

I’m surprised a liberal mentioned the DEWM.

Isn’t that an endangered species? Liberals have contempt for white men.

That explains all the female voter outreach. Like men care about abortion and the availability of $9 contraceptives at Wally-World.

They should stop insulting our intelligence.


9 posted on 10/19/2012 8:37:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if that 41% vote for Obama in 2008 included a healthy dose of the “Bradley effect.” Some guys may have told the pollster they voted for the anointed one when they really had voted for the geezer.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 8:40:08 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suspect that Romney got better grades in math than Obama but I can’t prove it.


11 posted on 10/19/2012 8:40:58 PM PDT by badpacifist (I think you know better)
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To: goldstategop

Yeah. “Ooh, ick! A white male! How very 17th century!”

Poor libs. They work so hard at being trendy “rebels”.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 8:43:54 PM PDT by nodumbblonde ("I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's a** about the clueless." - Dennis Miller)
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To: goldstategop

“It never is a traditional white male.” (for libtards)

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True. But never forget the white liberal guilt syndrome. One of my best friends in my circle is a Filipino guy. He tells me that white liberals are the biggest phonies he has ever met as these people preach multiculturalism or have ‘CO EXIST’ stickers on their cars, but they never have any non-white friends.

He tells me he feels more alienated in liberal places like West Hollywood than being in Oklahoma City.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 8:51:51 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: goldstategop

“Like men care about abortion”

This man does.


14 posted on 10/19/2012 9:02:28 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I meant killing your kid.

You think men are gung-ho about it? The Democratic Party thinks so.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 9:11:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“LOL Subsidized writer for NPR write about “white men” and then “interviews” bikers . . .tattoos, beer, smokers, dopers, et al...”

Read it. This is not a ‘biased for Obama piece’ from NPR. It is interesting that they chose this group to interview...and generally, this might have represented the ‘Democrat voter’. These are not the leftist Iowa City, Columbus, Austin or other liberal college campus influenced conglomerates of individuals. These are the ‘Democrats’ who have been influenced (indoctrinated) through the years by their union organizations. These are manufacturing union influences...the influencial leaders are pro Dem, but that does not make these guys so much so...think of the ‘Reagan Democrats’...they were these people.

These people are non SEIU...these are not the public employes union people who are dependent on the expansion of the Federal government...or the expansion of State government. These are people like many of us here in this forum...the are influenced by the reality of what is. They can be educated even more than what we see here in the comments in this NPR article. Education is OUR responsibility...the RINO propaganda machine (GOPe) won’t do it. They can become us. We have to make it happen.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 9:40:12 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: goldstategop

That’s not a very big gorilla.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 9:44:38 PM PDT by TroutFishingInAmerica ("I remember, with particular amusement, men in three-cornered hats, fishing in the dawn")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember when it was Americans voting for a President!

These days, it is how white men vote, how women vote, how hispanics vote, how blacks vote, etc. Since when has Americans become so divided into voting groups except with this racist President! Worse, the MSM exploits this for Obama! Talk about dividing America - this man has destroyed any chance of unity for years to come!


18 posted on 10/19/2012 10:01:21 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Deagle

“I remember when it was Americans voting for a President!

These days, it is how white men vote, how women vote, how hispanics vote, how blacks vote, etc. Since when has Americans become so divided into voting groups except with this racist President! Worse, the MSM exploits this for Obama! Talk about dividing America - this man has destroyed any chance of unity for years to come!”

*****

So true!!


19 posted on 10/19/2012 10:09:05 PM PDT by Em and Brets Mum ("Lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." - Proverbs 20:15)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ari Shapiro the so called NPR reporter, refuses to stand for the pledge of allegiance and married his boyfriend in San Fran. ‘Nuff said.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 10:19:39 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: goldstategop

Actually I’m pretty sure they believe that it’s a woman’s issue and the role of the man is to pay for the abortion and to otherwise not care. That’s ‘responsible’.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 10:25:36 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I wish the Republican Party would quit finding multibillionaires to run just so they could get their message across," says Jerry Willard, who recently retired here in Florida.

I think I'd rather have a presidential candidate that made their fortune before getting into office than during or because of it.
22 posted on 10/19/2012 10:44:15 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll take any of the bikers in this article over the current resident in the White House. These guys make more sense than most Harvard graduates and would probably do a bang-up job in the Defense Department.


23 posted on 10/19/2012 11:10:51 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What "Romney appeal"?

The writer would have done better to explore the depths, the nuances, the veils and swirls and shadings, of Obama's appeal to gay men.

Mittens is a super-RiNO Mandarin milquetoast and Professional Master of the Universe. Guys like him have been out of fashion in the United States since John Quincy Adams lost to Andy Jackson.

24 posted on 10/20/2012 12:57:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Drango
Ari Shapiro the so called NPR reporter, refuses to stand for the pledge of allegiance and married his boyfriend in San Fran. ‘Nuff said.

Shapiro's the NPR puke who was the other half of that embarrassing open-mike incident recently that recorded him and Jan Crawford of CBS precooking a pitch-and-catch play to run on Romney at his press conference, that would steer Romney ineluctably into their "narrative" that they'd cooked up for him as the "story of the day".

He's a certified JournoLister, journalistic cheat and Playa, and a fraud as a reporter.

25 posted on 10/20/2012 1:01:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Bump for a good post. Even before Reagan ran nationally, these guys were the "hard hats" who voted twice for George C. Wallace and the American Independent Party, rather than vote for Hubert Humphrey or George McGovern.
26 posted on 10/20/2012 1:06:06 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

I’m in the minority in not voting for Mittens.

Sorry - I find him as disagreeable as you do - its just too bad we’ll have to put up with another liberal for four more years!

No thanks to the GOP establishment.


27 posted on 10/20/2012 4:26:10 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: max americana

Ditto a Palestinean acquaintance of mine who prefers Midland TX to his previous homes of NYC and San Francisco.


28 posted on 10/20/2012 5:47:27 AM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: goldstategop
This the dirty secret of the 2012 elections liberals never discuss. Obama is way down with white men.

He isn’t going to get a majority of the white male vote. He has no chance of getting re-elected without it.

You're partly right and mostly wrong. Of course Obama won't win the white male vote. Democrats never do these days in national elections - McCain won white men and lost the election by a sizeable margin. Obama will get large majorities among Hispanics and non whites and will win white women. It's the margins that matter: if Romney gets 70% of white men he wins. 60% and it's close. 55% and we have four more years of Obama.

29 posted on 10/20/2012 7:09:29 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: 3Fingas

You’re spot on. Unfortunately our guy, Willard, went to Harvard Law and Harvard Business. Why do I think we’re going from the frying pan to the fire?


30 posted on 10/20/2012 7:13:24 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We know what we are getting with Romney if he is elected — a chastened RINO. However, compared to what we have now, that would be a vast improvement. Seriously, I am amazed at how Mitt Romney has gone from persona non grata around here to post debate one hero. I am not convinced that Mitt’s current reinvention will stick. But, even if he goes full-blow rino, that’s is better than the full libtard country destruction we are witnessing now. Americans need some semblance of normalcy so we can restore our balance. If Romney can stop our national economic arterial bleeding, we can recover to fight the social wars another day. First thing, we need to apply the tourniquet, then we can do some stitching later. Maybe, Romney the conflicted Rino that he is, will go down in history as a great President, or maybe he will be just be another in a long-line of tepid Republicans. Who knows? But, if he reverses or stops our slide into 3rd World status, he will forever have our gratitude.


31 posted on 10/20/2012 8:15:18 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

We’ve always had biker friends, even though we don’t ride. These are the working class and many of them rise to become successful small business owners in construction, trucking and event catering. Ever priced those big motorcycles? For that matter, tattoos are not cheap, either.

I’ve always said any of them could do a better job as POTUS than any Ivy League graduate.


32 posted on 10/20/2012 7:07:06 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Yeah, I know what you mean. I ride everyday. In fact, I don’t have a car, just a motorcycle. She’s a beaut too. So, I know bikers of all types pretty well. I agree that just about any biker I have met would do a better job in government than the long and lustrous list of Ivy Leaguers we’ve had for the last several years messing up our country.


33 posted on 10/21/2012 7:01:52 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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