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To: GodGunsGuts; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; tubebender; dixiechick2000; Ernest_at_the_Beach; marsh2; ...
Hey! This is NOT what my official elections ballot measure booklet told me!!!/sourchasm

If there is ANY doubt in one's mind about ANY ballot proposition... one must vote NO!

Even if government is broke, you can't fix it with confusing, deceptive measures with titling and wording controlled by Democrats currently in power!!!

Popular legislating will not always work as well as it did in Prop 13 in the 1970's. The legislative balance must be changed and then careful consideration by duly elected conservative representatives will process the information far better than these popular propositions that are creating "Government by Whim!"

This direct democrazy crappola was brought here from the old country (Switzerland) by European Socialist Liberals. Everyone forgets! We founded this nation to stand against the ways of the old country. This nation and this state were constituted as republics, using a democratic process to elect representatives who make laws. This is not a "Mobocracy!"

Real Americans and real Californians do not appreciate the tyranny of the majority and it's rape of rural areas by liberal courts and a Democrat dominated legislature elected by the metro-sexual mega-cities!!!

62 posted on 10/21/2012 9:43:19 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("The New Normal," is FAR from any normality!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; GodGunsGuts; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; tubebender; dixiechick2000; ...
Popular legislating will not always work as well as it did in Prop 13 in the 1970's.

While Proposition 13 did offer the people desperately needed tax relief, what it also did was leave the perpetrators in power. Had the people not possessed the option to cut property tax rates, they would have had to get rid of the Democrats to obtain said relief. My bet is that California would have been better off and this would be a very different State today.

Yes, I know what the rates were; here in Santa Cruz they peaked at 8.5%, equivalent to $42,500 in property taxes PER YEAR for a $500,000 home today.

71 posted on 10/21/2012 10:22:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: SierraWasp

Hey, sweetie! This has been happening in the Portland metro area since before I moved here. We’ve had the third layer of government for a very long time. However, they aren’t allowed to include the ‘burbs in the Portland city proper tax base yet. It’s been a fight, but we’ve prevailed.

More people live in the ‘burbs than the city.

At every election, we have to watch who the Metro candidates are, and their proclivities towards this kind of stuff.

On this measure, I wish you well, and a big ole WIN! I’ve been watching Stanley Kurtz’s reporting on this, as this kind of legislation is a heartbeat away from me.

As goes CA, so goes the country.


75 posted on 10/22/2012 12:28:26 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I can see November from my house! dc2k circa 2010)
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