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Iranian Regime: Obama Sent Secret Message Recognizing Our Nuclear Rights
Human Events ^ | 10/21/12 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/22/2012 5:10:35 AM PDT by Josephat

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To: IM2MAD

” . . . colluding with the enemy . . . “ ?

I don’t think we’ve had a DECLARED enemy since WWII. Certainly not Iran or Islam (or Russia or China).

Returning Vets and Constitutionalists are about as close as this government gets to declared enemies.

Without a declared enemy, I don’t know if O can legally be charged with treason. Non-declaration of enemies = non-wars, a convenient strategy for the post-WWII globalists in charge of things. No sovereignty, no wars: just large police actions and overseas contingency plans.


61 posted on 10/22/2012 7:41:03 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Josephat

And Obama will have more flexibility AFTER the election...


62 posted on 10/22/2012 8:07:16 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: butterdezillion; MestaMachine
The thing that makes me believe it is this:

the lawmaker said that the Swiss diplomat had also quoted Obama as saying that “I didn’t want to impose sanctions on your central bank but I had no options but to approve it since a Congress majority had approved the decision.”

That is so typical of Obama. When I read the other day that he was going to release the sanctions, I said that I thought he couldn't do it because they were law and had been passed by Congress. Well, obviously even he knows he can't attack them directly - yet.

So he does a private back-channel "negotiation" with Iran, without the knowledge of Congress, and presto, it's a fait accompli and the sanctions become meaningless. Obviously, if he says that US policy is now that a nuclear Iran is just find and dandy, there's no need for the sanctions and they will become unenforceable.

63 posted on 10/22/2012 8:08:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: NYleatherneck

“I’ll go ahead and call BS on this one. Obama can’t possibly be this stupid... Can he ?”

Why wouldn’t the SOS want to out this news?

Hussein has to make lots of secret calls to our enemies, his friends....


64 posted on 10/22/2012 8:10:19 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Principled
I would be very, very careful. I would not put it past Obama and the corrupt MSM to try and set a trap for Romney in an attempt to make him look like a fool if this is nothing more than disinformation.

Think of what Crowley did regarding “terror”. Now think about how Obama would try to slap Romney down as being absurd and naive and not ready to lead.

65 posted on 10/22/2012 8:32:03 AM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: Josephat

A nation with a religion that accepts and/or promotes suicide for their God must NOT be allowed nuclear weapons. It’s as simple as that!


66 posted on 10/22/2012 8:36:42 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Diogenesis

While this is definitely an impeachable offense, if true, and that Libya thing is also impeachable, congress is not going to move now to impeach.

First, the senate won’t go along with impeachment and right now pubs are in the minority. Second, it’s way too close to the election to begin impeachment proceedings.

Such a move simply would not be wise three weeks before an election.

HOWEVER, once Romney wins an impeachment action should be made based on an independent investigation into all this plus Libya. Said investigation will most likely find a whole bunch of bad stuff done by the Obama administration.

No President of this country should ever be allowed to get away with the awful things this president has done.

If the pubs take over the House and Senate, as I expect, plus the presidency, they should begin recruiting Democrats to join the impeachment effort because no American President should ever go on uncensored for the stuff this guy has done.

Surely, with a rout now in the making, the Dems will realize the coming death of their party. No?


67 posted on 10/22/2012 8:39:14 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Josephat

I think that in some circles it’s called “flexibility”.


68 posted on 10/22/2012 8:49:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Fishtalk

Whether this is true or not, IMPEACHMENT proceedings SHOULD begin the day after the election, regardless of who wins.


69 posted on 10/22/2012 9:02:16 AM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: livius

If Congress doesn’t do what you want, just go around them.

Doesn’t it say that in the Constitution somewhere?

/s


70 posted on 10/22/2012 10:52:10 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: KevinDavis
I’m taking this with a grain of salt... I need more proof than this..

Yeah, I agree Kevin. I'm amazed that people in this thread are taking Iran's word as gospel truth without any verification at all.

But I guess a country that independently developed their own stealth plane and other goodies wouldn't have any need to lie, would it?

71 posted on 10/22/2012 11:25:40 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Besides, why would the R&R team go with an unsourced 1 day old story in the most important debate of their lives, when they have 4 years of obama foreign policy failures to take their pick from?


72 posted on 10/22/2012 11:35:00 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: Josephat

Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran to American parents.


73 posted on 10/22/2012 12:51:48 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: torchthemummy

I also smell a trap for Romney. Don’t know why the Iranians would be colluding with 0bama on it, unless we have some sort of “double deal” here. There is a secret deal between Iran & 0bama. The first deal is that Iran & 0bama set up this one-sided statement, 0bama denies it, tomorrow after the debate, the Iranians confirm 0bama’s denial, the media attack Romney, and throw the election to 0bama.

The second part of this secret deal is that this REALLY IS the deal, but won’t be announced until November 10, after 0bama has been re-elected.


74 posted on 10/22/2012 1:19:22 PM PDT by henkster (If you let them do it to you, you got yourself to blame.)
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To: henkster

Iran is a mooselimb religious regime. There is this thing called ‘taqqiya’ which gives mooselimbs the freedom to lie like rugs if they can frame the issue as defending Is slime. Sois a fail if this little barry bastard boy claims he has made a deal with the liars in Iran, IF we had a real media rather than a fifth column enemy of we the people running interference for little bastard barry,


75 posted on 10/22/2012 1:27:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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76 posted on 10/22/2012 1:36:20 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: JustaCowgirl
it seems highly unlikely to me that Iran prefers Romney over Obama

Three possibilities here:

1. NYT is leaking it because Israel prefers Romney and NYT does not want to publicly support a Republican. There could be internal struggle inside NYT at the moment.

2. Iran understands that Romney is going to be the next president, whether they like him or not. Then it becomes to Iran's advantage to at least hold on to the ground they gained under Obama, and even exaggerate it a bit. Note that the US leaks are of a diplomatic settlement while Iran speaks of "recognition of Iran's nuclear rights", making it sound like there are no preconditions to that.

3. Iran may prefer Romney to Obama on the calculation that under Obama Israel will lose patience and strike first and Romney has credibility with Israel and make Israel hold their plans, and so give them time they need to accomplish their enrichment program. Remember, once Romney is president it is not in his interest to start a war.

77 posted on 10/22/2012 5:14:29 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: esoxmagnum
Each new president has given them 3 years to bullsh*t the administration

Yes, I think you may be right. That is possibility #3 in my previous post.

78 posted on 10/22/2012 5:18:32 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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