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Lance Armstrong's Tour titles stripped, says UCI
Reuters ^ | 10/22/12 | Julien Pretot

Posted on 10/22/2012 7:23:47 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai

GENEVA, Oct 22 (Reuters) - Lance Armstrong was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles and banned for life on Monday after the International Cycling Union (UCI) ratified the United States Anti-Doping Agency's (USADA) sanctions against the American.

The long-awaited decision has left cycling facing its "greatest crisis" according to UCI president Pat McQuaid and has destroyed Armstrong's last hope of clearing his name.

"Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling. Lance Armstrong deserves to be forgotten in cycling," McQuaid told a news conference as he outlined how cycling, long battered by doping problems for decades, would have to start all over again.

"The UCI wishes to begin that journey on that path forward today by confirming that it will not appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and that it will recognise the sanction that USADA has imposed.

"I was sickened by what I read in the USADA report."

On Oct. 10, USADA published a report into Armstrong which alleged the now-retired rider had been involved in the "most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen".

Armstrong, 41, had previously elected not to contest USADA charges, prompting USADA to propose his punishment pending confirmation from cycling's world governing body.

Former Armstrong team mates at his U.S. Postal and Discovery Channel outfits, where he won his seven successive Tour titles from 1999 to 2005, testified against him and themselves and were given reduced bans by the American authorities.

"It wasn't until the intervention of federal agents...they called these riders in and they put down a gun and badge on the table in front of them and said 'you're now facing a grand jury you must tell the truth' that those riders broke down," McQuaid added.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: athletes; cycling; doping; lancearmstrong; steroids; tourdefrance; usada
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1 posted on 10/22/2012 7:23:51 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

What a silly corrupt sport bicycle racing has been revealed to be.


2 posted on 10/22/2012 7:25:00 AM PDT by DManA
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To: AmericanSamurai
Lance....Know thy enemies.

May all the cyclists who testified against him rot in hell. The guy worked every day of his life to win these races.

3 posted on 10/22/2012 7:27:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: AmericanSamurai

So who is the winner of those races then? The other guys also have been busted for doping.


4 posted on 10/22/2012 7:27:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: DManA

Yep. Armstrong passed all the tests he took at the time. That should be good enough.


5 posted on 10/22/2012 7:28:02 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: AmericanSamurai

Saw one of his biggest fans today post that they were simply not accepting this decision and still consider Lance to have won the seven races.


6 posted on 10/22/2012 7:28:24 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Sacajaweau
May all the cyclists who testified against him rot in hell.

What do you have against people telling the truth?
7 posted on 10/22/2012 7:30:24 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: jospehm20
"Armstrong passed all the tests he took at the time."

So did some of his teammates who admitted doping.

8 posted on 10/22/2012 7:31:29 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: AmericanSamurai

Will all the money that Lance help raise for cancer research have to be returned to the donors now? /s


9 posted on 10/22/2012 7:31:31 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: DManA

I could never stand Lance Armstrong. He is a huge liberal. I always thought he was overrated.


10 posted on 10/22/2012 7:32:04 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: FewsOrange

He passed the tests. And that makes them liars.


11 posted on 10/22/2012 7:32:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Armstrong supporters could give Obamabots a run for their money in the Kool-Aide drinking department.


12 posted on 10/22/2012 7:33:23 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: a fool in paradise

So who is the winner of those races then?


http://news.yahoo.com/1-cycling-armstrongs-tour-titles-stripped-says-uci-111059090—spt.html

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Other issues such as the potential re-awarding of Armstrong’s Tour titles and the matter of prize money will be discussed by the UCI Management Committee on Friday.

Tour director Christian Prudhomme has said he believes no rider should inherit the titles given doping was so widespread among the peloton at the time but McQuaid made it clear the decision rested with his organisation, not the Tour.

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The UCI also said it had dope tested Armstrong 218 times and the fact he never tested positive and “beat the system” means that other organisations such as the World Anti-Doping Agency should share the responsibility of accepting the results.
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13 posted on 10/22/2012 7:34:06 AM PDT by deport
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To: AmericanSamurai
"involved in the "most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen". "

Ha, LA is an innovator pushing the technological envelope.

Bike arcing needs to have enforceable rules as their events occur, not 10 years later. It's a joke as a "professional" sport.

14 posted on 10/22/2012 7:35:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AmericanSamurai
"involved in the "most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen". "

Ha, LA is an innovator pushing the technological envelope.

Bike racing needs to have enforceable rules as their events occur, not 10 years later. It's long been a joke as a "professional" sport.

15 posted on 10/22/2012 7:35:41 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: a fool in paradise

“So who is the winner of those races then? The other guys also have been busted for doping.”

Nobody is a winner. I don’t think anyone will be attracted to the sport for some time.


16 posted on 10/22/2012 7:35:52 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: jospehm20

Let’s for the sake of argument say that Armstrong was a walking pharmasy the whole time he was winning bike races.

The people who run the sport knew as much about him then as they know now. Why didn’t they ban him then?

Because he was popular and he brought attention and money to their business. It was in their interest to let it slide. Now they judege it’s in their interest to look like heros and “clean” the sport up.

Trash sport run by trash.


17 posted on 10/22/2012 7:36:05 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Sacajaweau
Lance....Know thy enemies.

...apparently Mr Armstrong was so concentrated on his work, that he forgot "diplomacy". Maybe he refused to render kickbacks.

Whatever it was, he clearly annoyed some of the "officials" in this organization.

Lance Armstrong has enhance more lives and saved more lives than all of the "officals" in the UCI and USADA combined.

....I'll go with Lance...these other people can go to hell.

18 posted on 10/22/2012 7:37:23 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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To: DManA

“Let’s for the sake of argument say that Armstrong was a walking pharmasy the whole time he was winning bike races.”

It’s not just that he doped but apparently he told other players that if they didn’t dope themselves, they wouldn’t be in the team.


19 posted on 10/22/2012 7:42:53 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: AmericanSamurai

They could go after Barry Bonds if they wanted to and I don’t think too many people would shed tears.


20 posted on 10/22/2012 7:44:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: AmericanSamurai

“It was not enough that his teammates give maximum effort on the bike, he also required that they adhere to the doping program outlined for them or be replaced,” the antidoping agency said in its report. “He was not just a part of the doping culture on his team, he enforced and reinforced it.”


21 posted on 10/22/2012 7:45:00 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: B.O. Plenty

He supported G.W. Bush. That’s all you need to know.


22 posted on 10/22/2012 7:46:39 AM PDT by yobid
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To: AmericanSamurai

Eh, they were all cheating. He remains the champion.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 7:49:04 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

In other news, Jesse Owens has been found to have been doping based on the testimony of several German Olympic officials (hiding in South America for some reason) and certain of Mr. Owens teammates who were questioned at gunpoint. As a result, Owens will be stripped of his gold medals and the relatives of some other person who finished second and has been forgotten will get to meet with Hitler, and shake his hand, pending the invention of the time machine.

When asked for comment the USOC, WADA and the USADA expressed outrage that such a historical and diabolical scheme could have been perpetrated in the pure setting of the Berlin Olympics. “One could say,” said Dick Hurtz of the USADA, “this may have perpetrated a war and caused that entire Holocaust thingy.”


24 posted on 10/22/2012 7:49:06 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: AmericanSamurai
From what I understand, his choices were to take the 'finding' or be suspended anyway while continuing to fork over $ for lawyers as the case dragged its way through the USADA.

Some choice.

25 posted on 10/22/2012 7:49:42 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Sacajaweau
He passed the tests. And that makes them liars

Marion Jones passed every test she took.
26 posted on 10/22/2012 7:49:49 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: FewsOrange

I read one story where the cyclists called the tests ‘IQ Tests’ because the only way one could normally get caught after doping was if you were dumb.

Freegards


27 posted on 10/22/2012 7:52:47 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: ari-freedom

And he set out to DESTROY people who told the truth.

His own multi-millionaire status and that of conglomerate powerhouse Nike were used against people who told the truth.

He used his charity as a buffer.


28 posted on 10/22/2012 7:53:31 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: AmericanSamurai
"...they called these riders in and they put down a gun and badge on the table in front of them..."

Nice. So pray tell: why the Gestapo-style tactics? Why was there a Federal investigation? What charges are alleged? Was this all simply to "get" Lance Armstrong, or is anyone actually going to charge him with a crime? If not, then please explain all this to me, for this is bizarre.

29 posted on 10/22/2012 7:53:46 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: AmericanSamurai; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; ..
Cycling Ping

In the challenge for success and peak physical performance it is a fine line to determine what is the best method of training and nutrition and when or where performance enhancing becomes bad.

Are long training rides bad ...hill repeats, weight training? What about carb loading, deep muscle massage, power bars, goo and electrolyte additives?

Since there's no statute of limitations and no rules of constraint, it might be time to hook up the lie detectors on Merkx, Hinault, LeMond, Indurain, Riis, Ulrich and the rest. Maybe it's time to rewrite all the record books while we're at it. I'll concede there is an element of justice at play here, but this has gone to the point of ridiculousness in my view.

Then comes the issue of whether an athlete can be a jerk.

30 posted on 10/22/2012 7:54:06 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: DManA

I agree.


31 posted on 10/22/2012 7:56:02 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: DManA

I agree.


32 posted on 10/22/2012 7:56:05 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Baynative

Totally agree, Bay!


33 posted on 10/22/2012 7:57:32 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: circlecity

I guess if the powers that be in the sport were serious about stopping doping, they would have invested in better tests, but they were apparently not that serious about it.


34 posted on 10/22/2012 7:59:17 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: luv2ski

Think what will happen to Colorado’s economy when they ban high altitude training.


35 posted on 10/22/2012 7:59:54 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: yobid

“He supported G.W. Bush. That’s all you need to know.”

If that was an issue then every liberal news article would read “Lance Armstrong, a life-long Republican and Bush supporter...”


36 posted on 10/22/2012 8:03:43 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: AmericanSamurai

Ok, but here is the question?

SEVEN years?

Why did they let this go for seven years? or is this just going along with the us kangaroo comission?


37 posted on 10/22/2012 8:04:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Baynative

I take it you haven’t had a chance to read The Secret Race?


38 posted on 10/22/2012 8:12:08 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Sacajaweau

“The guy worked every day of his life to win these races.”

Apparently he also cheated.


39 posted on 10/22/2012 8:15:37 AM PDT by GalaxyAB
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To: jospehm20
"I guess if the powers that be in the sport were serious about stopping doping, they would have invested in better tests, but they were apparently not that serious about it."

If one has the time, brians and money they can get around anything.

40 posted on 10/22/2012 8:17:49 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: B.O. Plenty

“Lance Armstrong has enhance more lives and saved more lives than all of the “officals” in the UCI and USADA combined.”

Justice or empathy? A ‘wise latina’ may agree with you but in my book, a cheater is still a cheater.


41 posted on 10/22/2012 8:22:01 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom

Prove it. Forensics contradicts this version of reality.


42 posted on 10/22/2012 8:28:42 AM PDT by steve8714 (Code pink vaginas shown actual size)
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To: ari-freedom
He passed ALL his "tests" except the diplomatic tests.

How in the world could have he passed the "drug" tests and have been cheating?.....other than the "tests" themselves were rigged?....in which case, there are a lot of other people involved.

43 posted on 10/22/2012 8:32:53 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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To: Baynative

They keep talking about ‘evidence’. I have seen no ‘evidence’, only the testimony of hostile witnesses.....................


44 posted on 10/22/2012 8:40:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for......That's why I said it..............)
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To: yobid

What a crappy to thing to say....says more about you than him!


45 posted on 10/22/2012 8:41:17 AM PDT by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

V-E-N-D-E-T-T-A-!!!!!


46 posted on 10/22/2012 8:46:04 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: left that other site
Will all the money that Lance help raise for cancer research have to be returned to the donors now? /s

No -- because none of it ever goes to cancer research.

47 posted on 10/22/2012 8:49:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: circlecity

So, how many years after an event is it OK to go back and harass somebody over it in your view? It has been well over a decade since he won his first tour. My view is that if he passed all existing tests administered at that time he should be left alone. I do recall Armstrong being extensively tested at the time. This whole affair seems like sour grapes to me and an effort to tear down an inspiration to millions for no real reason. It certainly does not make cycling look honest and above board to me.


48 posted on 10/22/2012 8:50:48 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Sacajaweau

re: He passed the tests. And that makes them liars.
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What a silly statement. He passed the tests because he developed the most sophisticated system of cheating that would not be detected. Those who testified were under oath. They finally told the truth.

The RATS are good at vote fraud. Perhaps they will also some day get caught. When people testify about those doing it, will they be called liars?


49 posted on 10/22/2012 8:54:03 AM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: AmericanSamurai

If this logic is followed, then ought not Obama to be immediately stripped of his title as President and removed from office because of his very public marijuana smoking and possible cocaine use?


50 posted on 10/22/2012 8:54:56 AM PDT by miele man
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