“Where I part company with some FReepers is that I believe (aside from the psychological dysfunctional component) there is a genetic aspect as well (again, still dysfunctional) for many.”
Completely agree. I remember going to grade school with a couple girls that were boys and vice-versa. We knew they were gays back then, period. They were born that way. A couple of them had normal siblings. And like I posted here before, some of suspected gays have been looked up on Facebook and “SURPRISE”/s they have “life partners”.
Something went wrong with the sperm milkshake/egg landing field hand-off in those cases.
How do you know that perverts/munchers hadn’t already done their “magic” on these girls?
I'm not in the "they were automatically born that way and can't help it" camp. Some people may be naturally effeminate and have a disposition to fall into a homosexual category later in life, but I don't think there's some gene you're born with that gives your mind no free will and ensures you will only be sexual attracted to the same gender.
Gays are right that homosexuality is no different that heterosexuality, and I think Impy and I noted the same thing -- in grade school, we didn't "know" we were straight. We didn't know anything about sex or even "felt" like we should be with the opposite sex for unknown reasons. Girls were "icky" back then -- we weren't "born" attracted to females. Our sexual orientation didn't manifest itself until puberty. Children have no sexual orientation and don't understand that sort of thing. Sure there are grade school kids that naturally seem like few masculine girls and very feminine boys, but that doesn't "guarantee" they'll be gay some day. Perhaps a combination of factors such as environment can cause one feminine male who is more "comfortable" with the same sex to develop same sex attractions, whereas another feminine male who is more "comfortable" with the same sex will just become a metrosexual straight man who writes self-help books.
One of the people I know who claims he was "born gay" was married to a woman and had two (now teenage) daughters until he "discovered" he was "born gay" when he was 37 years old. Other prominent homosexuals like the "gay bishop" of New Hampshire, Vicky Gene Robinson, were given female names and raised by their parents to behave like girls, hence the conditioning is certainly part of the reason they developed a male-sex sexual orientation. And as a final argument, there are numerous well known "gay" celebrities who claim they were "born that way" and can't help it, only to suddenly become straight overnight when they end that relationship and get into a new environment -- without any "brainwashing" from anti-gay church groups (Ellen's former girlfriend, Anne Heche, for example)
On a global scale, it's similar how a lot of people might "naturally" have fascist tendencies and ideologies, but they won't develop into a genocidal maniac like Hitler unless you can replicate the economic conditions of 1930s German that would ALLOW that ideology to be taken to its most extreme degree. I think the "God made them that way" stuff is liberal propaganda, basically designed to force churches to endorse the gay agenda and promote homosexuality as healthy and normal (You can't discriminate against them when GOD made them that way!!")
Now, all that being said, if there's ONE issue on the gay culture war where I disagree with fellow conservatives, it's the argument over the national ban on allowing gays to donate blood. Liberals want blood donating bans to be based on overall sexual lifestyle and conservatives want to keep a blanket ban on anyone who's ever had gay sex. I had to look at the science on this one, and the facts are that this ban was put in place in the 1980s, during the height of the AIDS panic, when blood wasn't being screened carefully for diseases, and people in a homosexual lifestyle were far more likely to have tainted blood. The last part is still true, but the current federal guidelines are that ANY person, if they've ever engaged in sexual relations with a person of the same gender -- even ONCE since 1977 -- is banned from donating blood. I have to agree with the left on this one -- there are numerous people in gay relationships who are perfectly healthy, and numerous people who are 100% straight and have a far more reckless sex life because they're drug addicts, prostitutes, have constant one night stands without protection, etc. The guidelines for donating blood should be based entirely on high-risk behaviors of all sexual orientations, and not assume someone is automatically "high risk" if they ever had gay sex at any time in their life. Certainly a lot of "gays" should be totally banned from ever donating blood, but so should a lot of straights. It should be based on their overall actions, not what gender they did it with.