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To: lurk; Wyrd bið ful aræd

“In fact, early Mormonism was a collective, until they saw that it didn’t work.”

ALL early pioneers practiced ‘collectivism’. It was the only way a community could survive. The Mormons just did it better than most, ie, the first preppers.

Wyrd bið ful aræd: Looks like we don’t have to visit the DUmp to get the liberal bigoted talking points. There’s plenty here to go around.


34 posted on 10/25/2012 5:57:15 PM PDT by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax; lurk; Wyrd bið ful aræd; All
ALL early pioneers practiced ‘collectivism’. It was the only way a community could survive. The Mormons just did it better than most, ie, the first preppers.

Total nonsense.

Are you just bluffing your way thru this post, thinking no one will call you on it, Panaxanax?

Well, I'm calling...

Lds author George W. Givens was an author in good standing with the Lds church. He wrote several books, one of which is entitled: 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History

Givens was writing about the Mormon United Order -- as follows:

"When Brigham Young etablished Orderville and similar United Orders, John Taylor" [ensuing Lds "prophet" to Young] "was less than enthusiastic. He realized that enterprises such as Orderville were pure communism and not the law of consecration." (p. 169)

The Mormon "United Order" was a simple redistribution of wealth system -- community by community -- and imposed by a religious hierarchy.

Lds "prophet" John Taylor realized no scriptural basis for United Orders & dismantled the one in Orderville (he also cited other reasons such as "Our relations with the world and our own imperfections prevent the establishment of this system at the present time, as was stated by Joseph in an early day, it cannot yet be carried out.") (Givens' book, p. 169)

If, as you lamely claim, Pan, "ALL early pioneers" practiced what the Mormons did...then why did 3rd Lds "prophet" John Taylor cite precisely that relationship that Mormons had "with the world" as one of the reasons for the disestablishment of the United Order? If "the world" was operating on the same basis, it would have reinforced what the Mormons were doing...not countered it!!!

37 posted on 10/25/2012 6:15:04 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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