[little jeremiah]

lj: And as a side note, anyone pushing a lie or lies should never be trusted on anything he says. Very often propagandists will stir a bit of truth into the stew of lies to trick people.

DL:And this is true also.

Of course, LorenC is also a liar and twister of facts. But in the case of dismantling the "SAD is the nude model and FMD took the photos" he provides undeniable evidence. Gilbert, OTOH, provides fake "evidence" that he knew was false.

[DiogenesLamp]

Of course, LorenC is also a liar and twister of facts. But in the case of dismantling the "SAD is the nude model and FMD took the photos" he provides undeniable evidence. Gilbert, OTOH, provides fake "evidence" that he knew was false.

Yes, I agree. LorenC might be an Obama agent, (or not, but who can tell from his behavior?) but Gilbert knowingly and intentionally lied about the facts he had uncovered, ostensibly for the purpose of promoting his movie. His reason for lying was either to gain fame or profit, or perhaps even to help defeat Obama, but his ends do not justify his means.

Gilbert should be denounced roundly for his intentional deceit. (but I for one am going to wait till after the election to make any noise about it.)