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Mourdock is right, it's time to stand by him
Renew America ^ | 26 October 2012 | Tim Dunkin

Posted on 10/27/2012 5:39:25 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy

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1 posted on 10/27/2012 5:39:41 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Yashcheritsiy.
Another day, another "gaffe" manufactured by the mainstream media with the intention of attacking a conservative Republican candidate.

2 posted on 10/27/2012 5:49:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Where is he in the polls?


3 posted on 10/27/2012 6:12:07 AM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv; Yashcheritsiy
I heard about this story on a newsbreak during Mark Levin's show. Perhaps it was ABC radio news, I cant remember. Anyways, as stated above they reported it as if the man said "if you are raped it was God's intention" and until now I was saying "what's up with that guy!?!"

You did a wonderful thing, Yashcheritsiy by posting this article. Thank you!

4 posted on 10/27/2012 6:15:07 AM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The problem with all the gaff wringing is that in cases where the left is screaming it is not usually what was actually said or clearly intended but what they can conflate to have been said or intended. We can go back to any number of ‘gaffs’ even the Akin gaff. The left ultimately expected us to believe and strangely many did even in GOP circles that Akin, who has two daughters and has voted for the harshest punishements for rapists, intended to suggest that rape wasn’t a serious matter regardless of what he was trying to say beyond that. The left knew very well he was not trying to justify rape but was trying to defend the unborn. In all the gaff ringing it was nearly lost that the critical point that abortions related to rape pregancies represents less than 1% though it is used to justify 100% of abortion on demand which is a ridiculous and truly gaff worthy.

The Mourdock thing is even less a gaff. His context was clear. He wasn’t talking about rape being a gift from God but that every child is. Now unless our self styled “benevolent” leftists think some children should be treated as mistakes for actions of no work of their own I think that is an entirely reasonable and human idea that no child should be viewed as a mistake. If Mourdock or Akin lose because of this craziness it will be shameful just as it is shameful for the GOP to pile on as they did with Akin. It also sets up a chilling and reinforcing effect where the left can support and say what ever damn radical thing they please and we can not.

I can rattle off a laundry list of GOP that have been drummed out or beaten about over innocuous things they said whether it be Trent Lott or George Allen and dare I mention Sarah Palin. There is no value in submitting to the leftist language idea gulgag. What we need to do is smack them up side the head with “How could you be so damn stupid to even suggest they meant such a thing?” when they try to drum this crap up. Sure they will beat the drum but it should be the purpose of every person with honor to not indulge the debate and to ridicule it and stomp on it because what is stake is our liberty not theirs. They can talk about “good pedophiles” and its no big deal and if we bring it up we are just homophobes and such, they can compare our military to Nazis and apologize and be forgiven, they can suggest unborn children aren’t people, they can wish to let them die even if born alive, they can bash Christians with obscentity and rage, they then can be elected because often even we don’t make a big deal about their gaffs which aren’t gaffs at all because for them their gaffs are what they really think.

Some of us embrace the straight-jacket of leftist duplicity and seek only to be seen as reasonable, nice, and well groomed. We do so to our own demise.


5 posted on 10/27/2012 6:24:58 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Mourdock is right and it is time to stand by him. Amen

There is one victim and one potential victim in a rape - if a child is inadvertently conceived s/he is also an innocent victim. It is time to stop punishing the child for a crime it did not commit. It is time for pro lifers to proclaim this without hesitation or to feel apologetic in any way for proclaiming this truth.


6 posted on 10/27/2012 6:38:20 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
It doesn't matter if he is right (which he is).

It was plain stupid to say in the final weeks of an election. One would expect a Senate hopeful to be more aware of probable public and certain opposition reaction to such a statement.

Plain stupid and clearly damaging.

7 posted on 10/27/2012 6:51:54 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911
Plain stupid and clearly damaging.

Good grief. So expressing a pro-life sentiment is now "stupid" and "damaging"?

I refuse to accept that, and I think it is this kind of idiotic timidity that has gotten us where we are in the first place. Win or lose a Senate race, it's time to start throwing this junk right back in their faces, hard, even if it gives them broken noses in the process.

8 posted on 10/27/2012 7:04:30 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to make Obama a minor footnote in the pages of history)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I work in another state most of the time. I came back to Indy this weekend to vote for Mourdock, Pence, and Carlos May (and Romney, of course). I would have done this even if I had to crawl over broken glass for the 700 miles.


9 posted on 10/27/2012 7:16:31 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Yashcheritsiy
So expressing a pro-life sentiment is now "stupid" and "damaging"?

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Yep.

Proof?

Why exactly did you start this thread...to help Mourdock with damage control.

It was a statement of personal belief that will have absolutely no bearing on what he could try to accomplish in the Senate. It was a statement that could cost us a Senate majority.

Any such statement in the last days of an election that puts the campaign into damage control mode is plain stupid.

So is the attitude that says..."Who cares if we lose the Senate, as long as we piss the left off?"

10 posted on 10/27/2012 7:41:37 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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From a campaign perspective it was an utterly retarded thing to say. wtc911 is dead right on that. Mourdock may have not meant it to come out that way, but the fact is he said it in a debate a couple of weeks before the election. Very stupid.

It is not a pro-life or Christian sentiment. To say a rape is God’s will is Islamic, not Christian. This is not to say that it is OK to abort the baby, but to say rape is God’s will is blasphemy.


11 posted on 10/27/2012 7:46:05 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

EVERY life happens because GOD WANTS IT TO!!! Just because a man and woman do a sexual act, no matter HOW that is, they do NOT create the life....all LIFE is from GOD...ALL OF IT!!


12 posted on 10/27/2012 8:50:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Free Vulcan

geesh... he NEVER said RAPE was God’s Will...he said the BABY’s LIFE was God’s will!! Read again.


13 posted on 10/27/2012 8:51:49 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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“I just — I struggle with it myself for a long time but I came to realize that life is that gift from God, and I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape that it is something that God intended to happen.”

He said exactly that. Whether he meant it in that context or not is another story, but that’s what he said. If he meant it that way, he’s dead wrong.

God works all things together for good. He did NOT intend for the baby to be conceived out of rape. Allow it yes, but intend it no. That was not His will. But He will then work that for good, if we allow him to do so. THAT he does intend.


14 posted on 10/27/2012 9:09:56 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Free Vulcan

“when life begins”...you are being thick here.


15 posted on 10/27/2012 10:04:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

The word he messed up on is ‘intended’. Very bad word choice. Words mean things, and by using THAT word he created a causal chain that the liberals could jump on.

Sorry that’s tough, but that’s elections. You just don’t throw that stuff out to a political party ran by scumbag lawyers and expect them to ignore it.


16 posted on 10/27/2012 11:38:51 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Free Vulcan
I PRAY YOU NEVER use a word that you didn't intend to, Mr. Perfect Free Vulcan!!! Oh My...it must be SO nice to just THROW OUT someone that is THROWING YOU A LIFELINE to get rid of OBAMACARE!!!!

Maybe you are a Democrat that wants to KEEP Obama and Obamacare!!

BTW, Are you a Christian???

17 posted on 10/27/2012 12:32:04 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Welcome to campaign reality. I run them and have for a decade. Politics is war without the bullets, and if you don’t want to fight the war don’t get into it. You screw up and your opposition kicks your teeth in. I don’t make the rules ma’am.

Now Mourdoch is in damage control 10 days before the election by shooting himself in the foot. Why the hell would he do that? He is not a political neophyte.


18 posted on 10/27/2012 12:50:03 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Free Vulcan
If you would OPEN your mind, you would see that he was speaking the TRUTH!!

Do you run campaigns for Republicans or Democrats???

And I asked you if your are a CHRISTIAN?? please answer....it's not that difficult!

19 posted on 10/27/2012 3:27:03 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

And if we lose the seat, and the Senate, and possibly the Presidency over it...was it worth it? What does it prove? What was the point?

Are you more concerned about words, or actions?


20 posted on 10/27/2012 3:50:21 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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