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Obama still lying; He Knew Within Minutes
AmericanThinker.com ^ | 10/26/2012 | James Lewis

Posted on 10/27/2012 6:35:37 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: Roccus; All

Thank you for your clarifications.

I understand that that is a very short tour of duty.

My question (I guess) is: If the General felt strongly enough to override a direct order, why hasn’t he resigned and gone public with this?


41 posted on 10/27/2012 8:09:07 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: RoosterRedux

New thread on change of command at AFRICOM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2951017/posts


42 posted on 10/27/2012 8:09:07 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: RoosterRedux

“Obama gave an order of “Stand Down”...and his general in charge (Carter Ham) disobeyed it and was immediately relieved of duty. “

what happened here....to General Ham...is absolute proof of exactly WHO (Obama-the CIC) said WHAT.


43 posted on 10/27/2012 8:15:56 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I’m looking for solid sources for this now. Will keep you pinged.


44 posted on 10/27/2012 8:29:15 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Flag_This; RoosterRedux

——Maybe obama voted “present” by making himself unavailable to issue any kind of order.-——

I can accept that as an alternate possibility. In action is his forte.


45 posted on 10/27/2012 8:29:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: RoosterRedux
Let me help:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/26/ac-130u-gunship-was-on-scene-in-benghazi-obama-admin-refused-to-let-it-fire/

If the above story is true, and the AC-130 was on station, it would have been under Gen. Ham's command. Correct?

Here is another interesting link: http://www.blackfive.net/main/

46 posted on 10/27/2012 8:42:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The facts suggest there was disagreement between the White House and General Ham.


47 posted on 10/27/2012 8:43:36 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The facts suggest there was disagreement between the White House and General Ham.


48 posted on 10/27/2012 8:44:00 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Travis McGee

This is an impeachable offense. I see this as a high crime against the sovereignty of the United States and a failure to “faithfully execute his assigned duties.”


49 posted on 10/27/2012 8:46:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: RoosterRedux
This Communist monster Obama purposely withheld aid to these Americans for political reasons. Obama and the media are an accessory to murder. the media and Obama dared to twist this against Romney for saying the truth. the media is keeping Romney quiet with this threat of attacking him for poulticing the deaths but it was Obama who murdered them for political reasons. It's infuriating that the media is covering for this monster Obama and the people don't know.

This POS commmunist Obama and the media are lying peices of crap.

50 posted on 10/27/2012 8:50:12 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: mo

Obama is a murdering communist Monster.


51 posted on 10/27/2012 8:51:24 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Travis McGee

This Communist monster Obama purposely withheld aid to these Americans for political reasons. Obama and the media are an accessory to murder. the media and Obama dared to twist this against Romney for saying the truth. the media is keeping Romney quiet with this threat of attacking him for poulticing the deaths but it was Obama who murdered them for political reasons. It’s infuriating that the media is covering for this monster Obama and the people don’t know. And they’ve been covering up so no one knows about this except conservatives who listen to talk radio.

This POS commmunist Obama and the media are lying peices of crap


52 posted on 10/27/2012 8:52:49 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: popdonnelly

I have been scouring news sources and blogs online trying to find some details. Can you recommend any that you have seen?


53 posted on 10/27/2012 8:57:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Travis McGee
The one thing they CAN'T do is cross an international border without permission from POTUS. So the US Military will be inbound full-steam-ahead to make the rescue, and all they need from POTUS is a "proceed" order. In this case, they got a "stand down" instead.

You triggered a memory here. Remember the Somali pirates vs. Navy SEALs early in the Obama's pres_entcy? Remember how hesitant he was about the commander giving the order for the snipers to shoot the pirates even though one of them had "an AK-47 pointed at the back of American freighter captain Richard Phillips"? Only after they were successful did Obama express pride in their saving Captain Phillips.

Interesting how quickly Obama responds to charges of supposed racism (Henry Louis Gates/Beer Summit and Trayvon Martin/Obama's Son) but is a pantywaist when it comes to other sorts of leadership. He's more like a Prom Queen adored by a bunch of girlie-girls than a CIC.

SOURCE: ABC News - April 13, 2009 Navy SEALs' Simultaneous Headshots on Somali Pirates Were Procedure


Vice Adm. Bill Gortney called the simultaneous shots "phenomenal," and President Obama said how "very proud" he was of the job carried out by the military.

But while Humphries praised a job well done, he wasn't surprised by the deadly outcome.

"It's a standard, well executed hostage rescue tactical solution... They had no other choice," Humphries said. "[This was] the only way they get the job done."

"It's not a bunch of cowboys out there," he said. "It was a very controlled situation."



54 posted on 10/27/2012 9:12:37 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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55 posted on 10/27/2012 10:10:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: bt_dooftlook; RoosterRedux
"According to the official government web site, Gen. Ham is still heading Africom, with no adverse news coverage for the last 6 months."

Ham is out; Rodriguez is in his place:

"Obama Nominates Rodriguez as Next Africa Command Chief (4-Star Carter Ham relieved of command_"

56 posted on 10/27/2012 10:13:01 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Travis McGee
Hussein is trying to keep this info. from getting out until after the election and likely thinks it will go away at that time.

I heard/saw Panetta saying both he and the commander in charge over there agreed they didn't have enough information and thought it was too dangerous for our guys to go in there so they didn't give the “go” order.

He didn't include Hussein in that at all - didn't mention his name.

When I heard him say it was too dangerous, I thought what is the military for, to wait until a battle is over so they won't be “hurt”? I felt such disgust toward Panetta and Hussein for letting those men die without trying to save them.

Travis, I see collapse of everything coming, Hussein or no Hussein - it will happen faster if Hussein remains. I have studied the history of nations that collapsed from early times forward, and we are on that conveyor belt to destruction and can't get off now.

Your latest book is now on my Kindle. I have a folding sun charger that will charge my Kindle if TSHTF, so I'll be reading McGee books to pass my time when disaster happens.

57 posted on 10/27/2012 2:12:17 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: RoosterRedux

bttt


58 posted on 05/30/2014 7:19:06 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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