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To: Toespi
Strictly political decision? I don’t think so and this is why..........Obama passed ON THE GREATEST POLITICAL OPPORTUNTY ANY PRESIDENT HAS EVER HAD in the fall of an election year. Imagine a BINLADEN rerun, seals, delta force, troops taking the consulate in real time video, and rescuing Americans.

Au contraire. Obama is risk avoidance. He passed several times to take OBL. He is afraid of a repeat of a Jimmy Carter's Desert One. There was the possibility of Libyan civilian casualties in the fog of war.

It is debatable that we could have inserted a SEAL team in sufficient time given the timeline and chain of events. There was a delay in between the attack on the consulate compound and the annex. Libyan government forces were assisting. A relief mission had been sent from Tripoli. The only real option was air support either thru an armed drone or a gunship. The fact that the annex people were "painting" targets with lasers is indicative that there was armed support above. The WH just never gave the order to shoot.

Obama believed the political risks of failure were too great to justify the use of force. Right from the very beginning, we started to hear from the Administration about the "fog of war" crap when they knew exactly what was happening in real time. Obama didn't see this as an opportunity but a political trap. He just didn't figure on the whistleblowers and the deaths of Woods and Doherty at the annex.

237 posted on 10/28/2012 9:34:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

After that 1st debate debacle, Obama needed a big bounce, had he gone into Benghazi John Wayne style, there would be no looking back. This only proves to me that this was a pre-planned event, to produce big results, and he was watching it unfold. Either it went as planned or it went bad with the involvement of the seals. He stated that there were there things he ordered as it was unfolding......1). Secure the safety of victims. 2). Investigate so this never happens again. 3). Bring those to justice that did this. Everything about this statement is in the past tense. No leader would be thinking about investigation and justice during an unfolding attack.


248 posted on 10/28/2012 10:31:48 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: kabar
Obama believed the political risks of failure were too great to justify the use of force. Right from the very beginning, we started to hear from the Administration about the "fog of war" crap when they knew exactly what was happening in real time. Obama didn't see this as an opportunity but a political trap. He just didn't figure on the whistleblowers and the deaths of Woods and Doherty at the annex. Wow this is a bombshell if your take is what actually happened.IT does make sense as well.Seems I heard the same thing on talk radio Friday can't recall where. Your take seems bullet proof. It looks like that's the real deal to me.

What about all the refusals of security for Stevens over a period of months and then the taking away of what security he had,what was going on there?How does that feed into the equation?

257 posted on 10/28/2012 11:02:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: kabar

I disagree slightly.

Could we have inserted Seals in time to save Smith and Stevens? No.

Could we have had Seals there in time to better defend the Annex, take out the mortar position, etc.? Yes.


353 posted on 10/29/2012 2:01:53 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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