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You both have valid points, but there is no single “Hispanic” population. Here in NJ we have several different groups of them, with their own traits & priorities. The more established ones are assimilated, and vote along the same lines as the larger American population; younger newcomers are here for the safety net, and breed to reap the benefits (it is amazing how many of the younger women are pregnant). Many of them are no longer Catholic, and attend storefront evangelical churches (if they attend any at all).

As for why California is Mexican today, it is probably because it was Mexican in 1845; when the US took territory from Mexico it didn’t have the ethnic cleansing that Britain had in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick when they won the war for Canada. The US probably continues to absorb Hispanic immigrants because in a gobal economy we are a nation of merely 300 million, competing with two Asian powers of over a billion people each; here in the northeast whole neighborhoods would be ghost towns if they didn’t let illegals fill them.

I didn't want to respond to you here without LINKing you to a response I made to Regulator.

You both have valid points, but there is no single “Hispanic” population. Here in NJ we have several different groups of them, with their own traits & priorities. The more established ones are assimilated, and vote along the same lines as the larger American population; younger newcomers are here for the safety net, and breed to reap the benefits (it is amazing how many of the younger women are pregnant). Many of them are no longer Catholic, and attend storefront evangelical churches (if they attend any at all).

I agree with your comments. And by the way, welcome to the same ANCHOR BABY situation we have been putting up with in Southern California (and other places) for the last 25 years. Over 90% of the births in the Los Angeles County run hospitals, are the children of illegal immigrant parents. Almost that same percentage of "all services" are provided for illegal immigrants. We've got a multi-billion dollar county health care system that almost exclusively provides services to the citizens of other nations. Talk about your sick screwed up situation...

As for why California is Mexican today, it is probably because it was Mexican in 1845; when the US took territory from Mexico...

The United States fought a war with Mexico around 1845, in a dispute over the future of the Western Territory. The U. S. won. Despite this, it also paid Mexico for the Western Territory.

That territory wasn't the traditional centuries old property of Mexico. A European entity had claimed the Western Territories. Spain claimed it. In 1820, it left the Americas, and the Western Territory became Mexico's. The U. S. had made prior stands against European claims to the Americas. It didn't recognize Spain's claim. It didn't recognize Mexico's ownership either.

There's this mental picture that folks have come to believe in, that Mexico proper once extended far north into the area that is now the United States. Truth is, that whole area was populated by various American Indians. Mexican nationals were not heavily populating the area that is now the United States. Very little Mexican population was inhabiting Southern California at that time either.

The San Gabriel Mission in the mid 1700s, had a thriving concern in what is now East Los Angeles. They had upwards of ten thousand head of live-stock. And at the time, they were dealing with Indians, not Mexicans to help with that livestock.

Mexico had a claim on the territory for 25 years. That's it. We've had it for 167 years. Mexico didn't improve the land. Look what we have done with it.

The idea that today's Mexican nationals are merely reclaiming what was once Mexico, is silly.

...it didn’t have the ethnic cleansing that Britain had in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick when they won the war for Canada. The US probably continues to absorb Hispanic immigrants because in a global economy we are a nation of merely 300 million, competing with two Asian powers of over a billion people each; here in the northeast whole neighborhoods would be ghost towns if they didn’t let illegals fill them.

If we need more citizens, it would be more healthy if we were to make policies that would be more family friendly. It is not healthy to move people here who have no loyalty to our nation whatsoever.

And frankly, I'm not convinced we can't compete with other highly populated nations as it is, and turning our nation into a hovel on the order of their's, isn't my idea of fixing things.

That probably sounds overly hostile. I'm not intending it to be. I appreciate the comments. Take care.