Posted on 10/31/2012 3:12:35 PM PDT by Arthurio
“stands to reason that people overall are prone to selective perception of information favorable to their own outlooks.”
I don’t know how many conservatives you hang with but in my world only liberals think like that. This site doesn’t work like DU.
Yeah, but I'm betting northern European women are even worse. That's the problem. All too often women seem to vote on emotion and that usually entails supporting collectivism at a higher level rate than men.
If women would simply stay home and not vote, the Democratic party would have to move much further to the right to win elections in large swaths of the country. We would be a much more conservative, rugged individualist country. If women didn't vote, Romney v Obama would be no contest - Mitt would be cruising to an election landslide of epic proportions.
Ummmm... I will happily take a Pew or Fox poll that has the race tied and incumbent well below 50%, and the GOP far more enthusiastic and likely to vote.
You think those kind of numbers are bad for Romney? Are you kidding?
Gallup had Romney up 5, Ras has him up 2
everyone else had it tied with no one hitting %50. Based on that you’re willing to throw in the towel? There are 6 days to get Obama out of office otherwise you’ll be coming here for the next four years complaining about some program that he enacts. Maybe you should spend your effort over the next 6 days trying to get him out of office instead of trying to depress everyone who is trying to be optimistic. Whatever else we all believe you better believe this, if Obama gets re-elected he has a clear mandate to enact his policies. Complaining a year from now will not change that.
The Obama enthusiasm just isn't there this time around. We remember how it was in 2008. It's not nearly the same in 2012. Hardly any bumper stickers or lawn signs. No huge crowds where Obama speaks (Romney has the crowds this time).
It’s a cognitive bias that’s been well-substantiated by many studies over the decades, nobody has special immunity from it though it can be mitigated. I see both political persuasions being susceptible to it, liberals somewhat more so IMO.
Nuff said.
Because not only are most of these pollsters oversampling Democrats, they are inexplicably, using the 2008 turnout model, which won’t be the turnout for Barack Obama this election. In 2008, Obama had a lock on the Democrat vote, (today he is still trying to solidify his base) he had the Independent vote, (even the current skewed polls have Independents going to Romney) and he also had many Republicans, unhappy with McCain, that voted for him. (Those Republicans have since come home.) In fact, when Obama came into office, he had the support of 70% of the American people, however, a four-year record of his failed policies has all but erased that good will as the majority of those who voted for him in 2008, now have buyer’s remorse.
Young, single women in particular. They must be the most unstable, insecure demographic in the country. The cultural castration of the American male is partly to blame, but for some reason these women believe the government really is going to take care of them. Sad.
you don’t have to believe anything, just look at the internals they are using.
So both Gallup and Ras are wrong in their national projection?
If you want to see a bubble mentality read the posts at the bottom of Nate Silvers blog. They are delusional. I read all of them everyday. No bubble here.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
While this is not going to happen in our lifetimes, I think in the future it will be recognized that blanket universal suffrage is probably not the best model. Societies will adopt varying levels of "citizen". It won't be based on gender - there will be no rolling back the right of women to vote. At minimum societies will figure out that people taking government welfare should, by and large, not be able to vote themselves more freebies.
The least accurate poll asks "Who are you going to vote for?"
Riiight. Ok.
Stay home then. Go ahead. We are all just blowing smoke while you’re the smart one for running up your little white flag.
Every election we have to suffer these losers.
Any "cognitive bias" here is well documented which includes the pollsters who Fox News hires:
"(November 1, 2004) Fox News Poll: Kerry 48%, Bush 45% (RV)
Fox News/Opinion Dynamics ^
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:07:57 PM by Chet 99"
Even McCain got closer to Obama in the week before the election.
The election isn't held today and Obama is going to lose big next Tuesday.
I hope all you gainsayers come on the threads to eat your crow.
As a woman, let me tell you there’s no need to apologize, because you’re right. Most women are idiots who vote with their hormones or their feeeeeelings.
I just finished reading a biography of Julia Child. She was a staunch, lifelong Republican-hating, Communist-loving old liberal, but she voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger because she found him attractive.
Hey Freepers,
When was the last time we were told that an election was TOO CLOSE TO CALL????
THE WISCONSIN RECALL. And we all know how that turned out!
I’m not necessarily convinced Ø will win. It still feels like teetering 50/50 odds to me.
I do think this is the last political shot the Right is going to have though to avert national course. At least short of more drastic measures like revolt.
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