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CDC: U.S. Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low; 40.7% of Babies Born to Unmarried Women
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Posted on 11/01/2012 6:17:44 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: Will88

Yes. I see lots of threads like this, with no realistic solutions, so I ask if there really are any solutions that have a real chance of happening. If people are going to complain, they should be asked if their suggestions will work. Maybe someone will come up with an actual solution.
I am all for most of the suggestions here, even mandatory sterilization after the first illegitimate child, I just would like to know how people think they will actually happen?

What is wrong with that and how is it being an advocate for the left?


61 posted on 11/01/2012 7:53:05 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
Did that happen the last time we had Republicans in charge?

When Newt Gingrich was speaker they forced Slick Willie to sign welfare reform that did cut welfare for a period of time. Of course, Obama has gutted what he could of those reforms.

Neither of the Bushes were conservatives so nothing was going to happen with them in the WH. Romney might make some cuts simply because there will be no choice if any headway is to be made on our current trillion dollar plus annual spending deficits.

But if very many non-libs have your attitude, you are correct, no changes will ever be made (until economic collapse forces it).

62 posted on 11/01/2012 7:55:04 AM PDT by Will88
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To: stuartcr
What is wrong with that and how is it being an advocate for the left?

Again, if there are many like you, nothing will ever be done. You are unimaginative, boring and a waste of time with this constant throwing your hands up in the air.

Checking out of this one.

63 posted on 11/01/2012 8:00:11 AM PDT by Will88
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To: dfwgator

Yes, and single moms are celebrated. People around me seem to treat them as superheroes, and whenever they do I bite my tongue and think “So, she made a poor choice in a mate and I supposed to cry and wring my hands over how hard she works?”

I know some young widows and THEY get all my respect and support. But some floozy who has multiple kids out of wedlock from different fathers? Pfft, she should be mocked.


64 posted on 11/01/2012 8:00:37 AM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: stuartcr

Welfare reform post 1995 was generally consistent with this approach. Where reform was rigorously pursued, the results were transformative. Tommy Thompson’s Wisconsin is the classic example.

Where reform was resisted by local authorities, old habits tended to persist. This happened in many of the democrat-run swamps, but even these, the modest sanctions in the legislation had a marked impact.

We have been backsliding for a decade, mainly because the liberals have never been serious about ending permanent dependency. But the strategy is perfectly feasible. It needs to be properly presented, not as a punitive measure, but as a compassionate, forward looking, opportunity oriented approach. The speeches are not hard to write.

As for the raw politics, work requirements and drug testing of welfare recipients always poll well, with majority support even among dems.


65 posted on 11/01/2012 8:00:42 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: JediJones

The “gay marriage” thing is also a tool the left is using to minimize and destroy Christianity. It’s why they don’t see islam as incongruent with regard to gayness. Islam is the enemy of their enemy so its all good for them.

I happen to believe that the left promotes promiscuity, be it homo or hetero, because they’re just so desperate to have sex...with anyone. The promisuity and breaking down moralist behavior increases their chances of “hooking up.”

Anyone think Barney Frank doesn’t wake up in the morning and the first thing he thinks of is getting laid?


66 posted on 11/01/2012 8:08:24 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: stuartcr
Excellent use of modifiers in your sentences.

I have no idea what your comment means, and by your prior comments I am inclined to not much care.. But I will give you this, your attitude is pertinent in as much as the knee-jerk solutions to these problems are riddled with contradictions..

THERE WILL BE NO QUICK, SHORT TERMED SOLUTIONS, OR EASILY UNDERSTOOD PATHOLOGIES, TO THESE SERIOUS, DEEP SEEDED CULTURAL VIRUSES..

These problems are so pervasive and so ingrained into our new accepted norm, the effected folks have been raised to believe that this is what they are, and this is what we want them to be and do, by our laws, and socialistic policies..

They don't like what they have become, and are responding in their only alternatives that they have left, at least in their crude ill informed opinions.. ugh

67 posted on 11/01/2012 8:09:14 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: TigerClaws

This represents, quite frankly, demographic and cultural suicide.


68 posted on 11/01/2012 8:11:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Will88

Stuarter is the resident crank on the forum, FYI.

Please don’t feed the animals.


69 posted on 11/01/2012 8:11:28 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: TigerClaws
40.7% of Babies Born to Unmarried Women

I'd like to see racial and ethnic makeup in sheer numbers...I am aware the percentages in most groups

Blacks...70-90%

Asians...about 20%

Whites...about 20%

Hispanics...overall above 50%

Before Great Society...blacks were around 25%

but the biggest leap is whites...from 1/4 of ONE percent in 1962 to 20% today

another development is that in educated income earning families where there is marriage I have found that in the younger than 45 gang ...I'm Boomer but with young kids so I get to observe parents 20-30 years younger with grade schoolers...that the families are more often than not run or dominated by the woman

these young women are raised to expect to dominate their man and he is raised to tolerate it

we are truly screwed up even where we do better than overall

young people here truly have no inkling how far we have fallen...all they know is minority redress

that is all that matters

my boys are all alpha..we are a traditional family..even here in 75% GOP voting Williamson county we are a rarity...it just keps getting worse and worse

70 posted on 11/01/2012 8:19:28 AM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: stuartcr
The folly of creating an entire class of individuals completely dependent on strangers to support their existence.

We spent a trillion dollars on welfare this year. That, if anything is, is "unsustainable." When there is no longer that trillion dollars to support wards of the state, what will those people do then?

Most of them aren't even capable of the most brainless physical labor.

I know your schitck is to be purposely obtuse, but come on.

71 posted on 11/01/2012 8:21:45 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Betis70

It all started with Murphy Brown, Dan Quayle was right and years later Candace Bergen basically admitted that Quayle was right.


72 posted on 11/01/2012 8:24:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: stuartcr
the IRS, They'll take everything you want to give.

If you're so enamored of government solutions, they'll think of a good use for your money.

73 posted on 11/01/2012 8:25:55 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: stuartcr
Who do you think would run on a platform like that? Do you really think they would even get through the primaries?

The first step would be consolidating the total cost of welfare into a single set of numbers, as was done by Weekly Standard's article about welfare costing over $60K per family in poverty. Get enough taxpayers pissed off, and getting support for consolidating/eliminating programs would be easier.

74 posted on 11/01/2012 8:31:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Will88

That I don’t see this really happening, especially on a state level, is an attitude?


75 posted on 11/01/2012 8:35:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: TigerClaws
With an illegitimacy rate now over 40%, it is very clear that we are in an accelerating state of social disintegration. This is a major contributing factor to Losing America's Multi-Generational Purpose.

Unless we take away the suffrage of those who obtain unearned Governmental assistance, there is only one way that all of this ends.

William Flax

76 posted on 11/01/2012 8:36:39 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Will88

You’re leaving before you name any politician or party that really stands a chance of implementing your ideas?...talk about throwing one’s hands up in the air.


77 posted on 11/01/2012 8:39:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: sphinx

Why doesn’t it happen?


78 posted on 11/01/2012 8:41:07 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: carlo3b

Adjectives and adverbs. I agree with your large sentence.


79 posted on 11/01/2012 8:42:59 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: TigerClaws

Why is this happening when birth control is widely available and as we know often free of charge - likewise abortions?

There is little financial disincentive - and in fact there are incentives built in - thanks to our tax and welfare systems.

Many demographic subcultures no longer look negatively on this type of thing. In fact, the unwed mother is celebrated and romanticized.

I know many women in their late 30s and early 40s who want children but have no man in their life, so they go it alone. In most of these cases they can afford it without government handouts.

Men are increasingly shunning marriage. They increasingly see it as too risky financially with little upside. This is in large government’s fault as the divorce industry still disproportionately favors women.

It is sad, but get used to it because it will be more 50% within a few years.


80 posted on 11/01/2012 8:43:34 AM PDT by AC86UT89
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