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Justice Dept. OKs new arguments in healthcare lawsuit
The Hill ^ | 11/1/12 | Sam Baker

Posted on 11/01/2012 1:26:21 PM PDT by Evil Slayer

The Justice Department said it does not object to a new round of legal arguments over President Obama's healthcare law.

In a brief filed with the Supreme Court late Wednesday, the Justice Department said the court should clear the way for a possible new hearing in the lawsuit filed by Liberty University.

Although the Supreme Court has already ruled that the healthcare law's individual mandate is constitutional, Liberty has asked for a new hearing because it challenged the mandate on different grounds.

A lower court declined to rule in Liberty's suit because it said the challenge was barred by the Anti-Injunction Act — a federal law that says taxes can't be challenged in court before they take effect. But when the Supreme Court issued its landmark healthcare ruling, in a separate case, it said the Anti-Injunction Act did not prevent a ruling on the merits of the individual mandate.

Because of that, Liberty says it should get another shot to make its case on the merits. Liberty, unlike the states whose case made it to the Supreme Court, challenged the mandate on religious grounds.

Liberty's initial complaint said because university employees would have to comply with the individual mandate and the university would have to to comply with the employer mandate, they "cannot protect their sincerely held religious beliefs against facilitating, subsidizing, easing, funding or supporting abortions."

The Justice Department said Wednesday that it does not object to Liberty's request for a new lower-court hearing. According to SCOTUSBlog, Justice said it would not "oppose further proceedings in the court of appeals" to resolve Liberty's claims.

That means the Supreme Court could vacate the lower court's ruling and allow that court to hear the case again. The Supreme Court hasn't yet scheduled a time to consider Liberty's request.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libertyuniversity; obamacare; redo; scotus; scotusobamacare

1 posted on 11/01/2012 1:26:24 PM PDT by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer
Thank you Liberty. Keep the pressure on.
2 posted on 11/01/2012 1:36:08 PM PDT by st.eqed
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To: Evil Slayer

Moot by the end of February.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 11/01/2012 1:41:26 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: st.eqed

More ammo for Mitt’s effort to shoot down Obamacare.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 1:41:27 PM PDT by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: SnakeDoctor
Maybe Chief Justice Roberts will change his mind and vote it unconstitutional this time around considering he won't be under the evil eye of Obama.
5 posted on 11/01/2012 1:45:08 PM PDT by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: Evil Slayer
Maybe Chief Justice Roberts will change his mind and vote it unconstitutional this time around considering he won't be under the evil eye of Obama.

Maybe Roberts will retire in disgust because Americans don't read his rulings that tell them they are free.

How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America

6 posted on 11/01/2012 1:51:52 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Evil Slayer
After the last USSC decision I predicted that ObamaCare would eventually be successfully challenged in a legal case, but on completely different grounds than the original lawsuit. That legal action was based entirely on the constitutionality of the individual mandate under the Tenth Amendment, while there are a number of additional legal challenges in the works that are based on different legal arguments. This is one of them.

The interesting aspect of this story is that Obama's Justice Department may be tipping its hand a bit by allowing this challenge to go through. The Court originally refused to hear the arguments because the specific provisions of ObamaCare that Liberty University is challenged haven't been implemented yet. If the Justice Department is agreeing to have this case heard now, it might mean that they believe ObamaCare stands a better chance of being upheld in the current Supreme Court term than in a future term.

This might mean they don't expect Barack Obama to be nominating the replacement for the next retiring Supreme Court justice.

7 posted on 11/01/2012 1:52:24 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Evil Slayer

SCOTUS would probably say that forcing every American to buy a VOLT, buy $40 a week in veggies, walk a mile a day and turn their thermostat to 78 in summer are all legal. Free country?


8 posted on 11/01/2012 1:59:17 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Evil Slayer

I guess it’s good news. Why are sincerely held religious views capable of fending off nonexistent federal jurisdiction, but sincerely held personal views are not?


9 posted on 11/01/2012 2:06:46 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: GeronL

SCOTUS would probably say that forcing every American to buy a VOLT, buy $40 a week in veggies, walk a mile a day and turn their thermostat to 78 in summer are all legal.

No, that would be unconstitutional. Passing a law that says people not doing those things would be liable to an additional $1000 per day tax however would be just fine. Justice Roberts is in top running for the idiot of the year.


10 posted on 11/01/2012 2:19:11 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Does anyone know if health insurance carriers are required (by any State Insurance Commissioners) to cover condoms, contraceptives and/or abortions?

I’m just remembering back in the day when routine maternity/delivery was not covered.

How much has changed??


11 posted on 11/01/2012 2:22:13 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Talisker

Good grief ... that link is one tortured reading of the Obamacare ruling. Just a bunch of Tax Protester hokum masquerading as a technical legal analysis of John Roberts completely lawless ruling.

SnakeDoc


12 posted on 11/01/2012 2:28:49 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: Evil Slayer

My point was nobody will need to rule on anything if it is repealed.

I’ll never trust John Roberts again ... with this case, or any other. His Obamacare opinion was the single worst ruling I’ve ever read — and I’m an attorney, I’ve read some really bad ones. My opinion of a jurist has never turned so quickly in my entire life.

He invented a completely novel interpretation of the law ... one that no other Judge or Justice in this country ever agreed with, and that no lawyer on either side — or in amicus briefs — even argued for. He just made it up off the top of his head.

His ruling was entirely lawless. As far as I am concerned, he is a rogue justice. He made a mockery out of the law, himself, and his Court.

SnakeDoc


13 posted on 11/01/2012 2:40:06 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: Alberta's Child

I would’ve challenged it on the basis that a tax bill must originate in the House. Since Roberts rule this damn thing is justified under the taxing authority ... then it should be subject to the Constitutional limitations on tax bills.

But, ultimately, it’ll have to go through Roberts again. If he can make-up a ruling that this is a justified as a tax ... he can just as easily make-up one that it is a tax for the purposes of his last ruling, but not a tax for the purposes of the Constitutional provision that “tax bills must originate in the House”.

Such is the nature of rogue justices that make-up the law as they go along.

SnakeDoc


14 posted on 11/01/2012 2:44:59 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: SnakeDoctor
I would’ve challenged it on the basis that a tax bill must originate in the House. Since Roberts rule this damn thing is justified under the taxing authority ... then it should be subject to the Constitutional limitations on tax bills.

Unfortunately, the Obamacare bill passed by the Senate actually did originate in the House.

Harry Reid picked up a dead bill submitted by the House, stripped all the content out, and reintroduced it with the Obamacare verbiage. It is within his authority to do this.

So, technically, Obamacare did originate in the House. And your concern is exactly why Reid acted as he did...

15 posted on 11/01/2012 2:49:26 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01

As I recall, the House passed a bill. The Senate then passed their own bill. They had to force it through the House as is because they couldn’t go back to the Senate (since Brown had replace Kennedy) if it was modified ... and they also couldn’t get the House version through the Senate.

My recollection is that the inability to go back to the Senate resulted in the original Senate bill being passed by the House. If it originated in the House ... why did the House have to pass it again?

SnakeDoc


16 posted on 11/01/2012 3:03:12 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: SnakeDoctor
My recollection is that the inability to go back to the Senate resulted in the original Senate bill being passed by the House. If it originated in the House ... why did the House have to pass it again?

Simple. While it was actually a House bill, it had been amended (by 100%). So, the House had to pass it again...as amended.

17 posted on 11/01/2012 3:30:04 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

ObamaCare actually did originate in the House. It was introduced by Rep. Charles Rangel (Corrupt-NY) as some kind of budget reconciliation bill months before it was passed. It had an HR (”House Resolution”) number attached to it, and all that.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 4:21:09 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: okie01

“While it was actually a House bill, it had been amended (by 100%). So, the House had to pass it again...as amended.”

There were 2 House bills. One was their monstrous version of health reform (also weighing in at many hundreds of pages). This had no prospect of passage following Scott Brown’s victory. So, as you say, the Senate picked up another House bill on a completely unrelated issue, (but which had some minor tax provision in it so that it could be technically but misleadingly said to be a revenue bill originated in the House) stripped the entire contents of the bill and substituted the monstrosity that became Obamacare.

This version then went back to the House for approval and then they passed a separate “reconciliation” bill that fixed the things the House didn’t like, but because it contained reconciliation provisions, this “clean-up” bill could be passed in the Senate with only 51 votes etc. So in the end, the Dems just barely adhered to the letter of the law/Constitution even while massively violating its spirit.


19 posted on 11/02/2012 3:21:24 AM PDT by DrC
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