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Ohio Voting Count 'Nightmare' Looms (Worth Re-posting - 250,000 possible provisionals in Ohio?)
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, 01 Nov 2012 01:07 PM | David A. Patten and Jim Meyers

Posted on 11/02/2012 6:24:06 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr

Discussion and some disagreement came up on another thread, worth reposting for those who haven't read or, like me, needed a firm refresher of numbers ... note: quotes and data are from former Sec State Ohio, Kenneth Blackwell, and current Sec State Ohio, Jon Husted. Therefore, I wouldn't call this mere speculation.

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“I would just say that this is a potential nightmare-in-waiting,” says Blackwell.

Blackwell believes that could result in an unprecedented number of provisional ballots being filed – some 250,000 or more. Such a large number of ballots being held, presumably under armed guard, for 10 days until they can be opened, ...

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: election; ohio; provisional; recount
I'm not one who thinks the election will be that close.

If you are, then if Ohio is the 'decider' as GW would say, or one of several deciders and there are also provisional delays, recounts, lawsuits in those states ... we're looking at Florida 2000.

1 posted on 11/02/2012 6:24:17 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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I dont know how they thought this was rational..why do it..and how do they verify votes...seem like the risk of fraud and not counting votes is high


2 posted on 11/02/2012 6:29:35 AM PDT by dalebert
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"Ohio’s current secretary of state, Republican Jon Husted, pushed for the absentee-ballot applications to go out to all voters, according to Blackwell."

Ohio, you need to make sure that this guy's public career is ended in the next term. Let him get a job where he doesn't do other people harm!

3 posted on 11/02/2012 6:30:45 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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Blackwell believes that could result in an unprecedented number of provisional ballots being filed – some 250,000 or more. Such a large number of ballots being held, presumably under armed guard, for 10 days until they can be opened, ...


No way in hell will we know who won on Teusday night. And then throw all the lawyers and UN observers in the mix. This could drag out a very, very long time.


4 posted on 11/02/2012 6:38:31 AM PDT by chessplayer
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There are far more than 250,000 possible provisional ballots. The IDIOT REPUBLICAN Sec of State sent out 7 million absentee ballot request forms to ALL registered voters whether they had been requested or NOT! His reasoning—it might help reduce lines and wait time on election day.

So now in Ohio we have machines which register Obama when people vote for Romney, 40,000 Somalis taken by SEIU union thugs to polling stations across the state where they are told by interpreters who to vote for and how to do it and now an unlimited supply of absentee ballots ready and waiting for voter fraud.


5 posted on 11/02/2012 6:47:22 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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IMO, not going to matter. Go with the overly cautious RealClearPolitics map that gives Gov. Romney 191. Add FL, NC, VA, CO, IA, NV, NH and Romney has 273 without OH, PA, WI or MI. Feel better?


6 posted on 11/02/2012 6:58:48 AM PDT by cumbo78
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Cloward-Piven Strategy: Seek to overwhelm the nation’s understaffed and poorly policed electoral system.


7 posted on 11/02/2012 7:42:06 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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Feel better?

I will only feel better if, after all of the illegal aliens' and dead people's votes for Obama are counted, Romney is declared the winner on election day.

Until then, all we can do is vote, get our families and friends to vote, and try and make sure our dead ancestors do not vote (since they will all vote for Obama).

8 posted on 11/02/2012 7:58:15 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Are we nearing the end of the Obamanation?)
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I have no doubt that people who voted early for Obama will show up on election day and demand to vote, they will be given provisional ballots and there will be pressure by the ‘rats to have these counted.


9 posted on 11/02/2012 8:19:05 AM PDT by Kenny500c
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Old Puppy! It's bad, but probably not that bad. At most it would be 400K ballots, but remember the article was written lastThursday.

Of those absentee ballots, 950,000 had been completed and mailed back in. That leaves some 350,000 absentee ballots that had been requested and sent to voters, but had not yet been received.

Keep in mind that the article was written Thursday the 26th. One assumes that many, many more will have been returned by the 5th, and not that many in addition will be requested in the time frame between the 26th when the article was written and the 3rd with is the final day to request absentees.

i think 200K to 250K valid provisional votes is predictable (Valid votes cast at polls because the absentee ballot requestor didn't RTFM). That said, you're right - a ton of dems will cast double ballots, which, while they con't contribute to the final vote, will contribute to the total extant provisional count - and THAT is what will trigger a recount if, say, the initial valid count is within 30% of the total number of provisionals. (They're not going to wait to call the election to count provisionals if the number of votes cast on election that favor one side is, say, equal to the provisional count, because statistically provisionals are not going to be 100% dem, especially in this situation where the reason for most of the provisionals will be legitimate but stupid RTFM mistakes, meaning that portion of provisionals will only supply a slight advantage to one side)

I have no doubt about the election itself - we're looking at landslide or border landslide where Ohio will not figure in.

But I have just as much confidence that the dems will make some sort of a case for counting the provisionals before calling Ohio virtually no matter what, and in other states, because buying time buys them fraud time, but just as important it buys them time to cast illegitimacy on an outcome they most likely will have already accepted.

Florida's main damage was averted by SCOTUS ... but there was a secondary damage in that it allowed 10's of millions of silly democrats to believe the election was stolen (despite the fact that the real attempted theft was in calling FL before the panhandle had a chance to vote) - thereby injuring Republican's political capital going forward - once again, dems successfully projected their own sins onto Republicans and got away with it.

10 posted on 11/02/2012 9:50:41 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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