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Liberal/Conservative Divide Only Grows Uglier
Rick's Pick's newsletter ^ | Nov. 2, 2012 | Rick Ackerman

Posted on 11/02/2012 6:53:53 AM PDT by Sicvee

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To: moovova
It is possible to be smart...and still be broken.

Bears repeating.

61 posted on 11/02/2012 8:19:57 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

To say that some oddball calling for repeal of the 21st Amendment is evidence that culture conservatives are just as guilty of being pro big government is not being argumentative - but it is insulting, even if unintentionally so.


62 posted on 11/02/2012 8:30:30 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("GONE: The Four Year Wave That Rocked The Bubble" due out Nov 8th)
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To: NKStarr
You can see the beginnings of it in our recent elections, in which two-thirds of the states are already solidly red or blue, with little or no contest.

They're not that solid. Take California for example. Obama carried CA in 2008 without question as we knew he would. However, when you break it down, he only got 3 out of 5 votes. In my state, Texas, John McCain won with a mere 55%, so in any given room, as many people voted against him as for him. The difference between a red state and a blue state isn't nearly as pronounced as many think. Which goes a long way to explain how the nation's preeminent conservative website is based in California.

63 posted on 11/02/2012 8:33:44 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Well three out of five is 60%. In politics, we call that a landslide.

Regarding Texas: yea, that’s why I referred to our movement as “in long term decline.”


64 posted on 11/02/2012 8:44:06 AM PDT by NKStarr
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To: oblomov

I have a real chip on my shoulder about these guys that call themselves “libertarian” because they don’t want to admit their democrat liberals. I think they get it from jackasses like Bill Marr who likes to claim he’s independent but spouts off 100% liberal talking points. Sometimes, they like the idea of legalized pot.


65 posted on 11/02/2012 8:45:00 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I’ve even seen a number of calls for the repeal of the 21st Amendment.

I thought the highlighted adverb was sufficient to identify the cited example as extreme and on the fringe. It certainly wasn't meant to be insulting. I was having a friendly conversation, not stridently trying to prove my point. Typos and dropped words aside, I'm typically fairly precise with language.

e·ven

adverb

(used to suggest that something mentioned as a possibility constitutes an extreme case or an unlikely instance): Even the slightest noise disturbs him. Even if he attends, he may not participate.

http://dictionary.reference.com

66 posted on 11/02/2012 8:49:27 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Sicvee

Liberals see reality through the prism of their delusions.


67 posted on 11/02/2012 8:53:23 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: NKStarr
Well three out of five is 60%. In politics, we call that a landslide.

Absolutely. However, it's not solid enough to put secession on the table. The last time it was tried it was bad enough, but things would have gone much worse for the South had it lacked the support of a full 40% of it's population. In warfare I think that's called two fronts, which is almost always one too many. qualifier highlighted to avoid repeat of earlier miscommunication

68 posted on 11/02/2012 8:58:05 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Well, that’s because they’re not Democrat liberals. Agree with libertarians or not, unlike their Democrat counterparts, they don’t have a tax and spend, cradle to grave philosophy. You can’t be a liberal Democrat without wanting to redistribute everyone’s wealth. That’s part and parcel of everything Democrat. You may have legitimate issues with Libertarians, but their being socialists is not one of them.


69 posted on 11/02/2012 9:03:17 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

I have a broken brother, sister-in-law, sister (and her live-in boyfriend). Luckily, I was able to fix my mother.


70 posted on 11/02/2012 9:05:46 AM PDT by moovova (The infamous 3am call FINALLY came. Obama took the call...and then rolled over & went back to sleep.)
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To: Sicvee
A few of my wife’s closest friends are unmitigated liberals, and it’s unclear how much longer we’ll be able to tiptoe around the political rough edges when we get together socially.

True friendship is a complex relationship that requires a mutual knowledge, esteem, and affection in order to produce pleasure in each other's company, communication with a high degree of intimacy, and the display of mutual benevolence, each sincerely wishing the other well. This becomes more and more impossible when two people have opposite values.The word esteem means a favorable evaluation of something. In order to have a favorable esteem of someone, one must recognize in the other that he has qualities that he estimates as being of significant moral value.This becomes difficult because it is almost impossible for a conservative to recognize any qualities of moral value in a libtard.

71 posted on 11/02/2012 9:06:06 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: RedStateRocker
Anyone - right or left- who is unable do discuss civilly, and remain friends with any other person, regardless of their beliefs, cannot be considered a civilized human being and has no place amongst adults. I have friends from tea part members to overt marxists, but I refuse to have as even an acquaintance someone of ANY persuasion who can't eat, drink and enjoy the company of others no matter what they might espouse. No ideology or theology can ever be more important than friendship and family.

What has light to do with darkness? What has good to do with evil? How can you be friends with someone who is a domestic enemy or useful idiot? Using your logic, you have no problem being friends with someone who is trying to turn this country into a socialist dictatorship and would have no problem sending you to a "re-education camp" or worse. You really need to practice discernment.

72 posted on 11/02/2012 9:09:02 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Melas

Aha, but the way you used even was not in the case you c and p from dictionary.com - you used it to amplify your cause - to prove your cause.


73 posted on 11/02/2012 9:09:14 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("GONE: The Four Year Wave That Rocked The Bubble" due out Nov 8th)
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To: moovova

Eh, I’m married to one. I’ve long since given up on changing her. She’s made it very clear that the fact that she’s not voting for Obama just means that since she’s employed in the industry that is most likely to fold under Obamacare, and she’s fundamentally opposed to starvation, not that she’s changed her stripes.


74 posted on 11/02/2012 9:14:47 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Sicvee
When you try and control me and destroy our economy, you are not misguided - you are my enemy.

White progressives are the ultimate enemy of America.

75 posted on 11/02/2012 9:15:36 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: mjp

Can’t say that I agree there. Let’s go way beyond friendship. I’m married to a self-identified liberal. She absolutely has qualities that are of significant moral value. She’d die for me, as I would her, as we both would for our children and grandchildren. You just can’t find a greater moral common ground than that.


76 posted on 11/02/2012 9:19:08 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You know what, I can totally see that now that you’ve pointed it out. It wasn’t my intention, but I can see how it could easily be read that way. Mea culpa.


77 posted on 11/02/2012 9:22:03 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Kerouac was a paleo-conservative. He was a National Review subscriber, a member of JBS, and a supporter of Joseph McCarthy.


78 posted on 11/02/2012 9:23:39 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Melas

That’s right. Our side still has hope.

Enough defeats, though, when added to some triggering event and secession becomes possible.

There’s secession talk all over the place in Europe now.


79 posted on 11/02/2012 9:26:13 AM PDT by NKStarr
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To: oblomov

He was also a pothead (and harder drugs), admitted bisexual who lived with Neal and Carolyn Cassidy in a kinky 3 way relationship, mixed Buddhism with Catholicism, walked out on his wife and abandoned his only child. That’s what you call a paleo-conservative?


80 posted on 11/02/2012 9:34:47 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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