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To: TWhiteBear; riverdawg; SeekAndFind; seekthetruth
TWhiteBear wrote:

Can you supply a link for your assertion?
Reagan cut the rates and, let me clearly state, cut the base for major taxes. This is not the policy of Mr. Romney, who may be cutting the standard deduction, mortgage interest and raising other rates and bases.

Agreed. The table at this link shows that the 1986 tax cut was revenue-neutral over 4 years, at least according to a Treasury document. Romney's tax plan doesn't even come close. I looked closely at one of the key studies that supposedly supports his plan. Following is a fully sourced table that looks at Romney's tax plan using 2009 IRS tax data:

         Projected Revenue Gain/Loss from Romney Tax Plan
                      (billions of dollars)

                               2009 IRS Data         Feldstein
                          ======================= ===============
Adjusted Gross Income -->     All   100K+   200K+     All   100K+
========================= ======= ======= ======= ======= =======
Income tax before credits     976     682     449     953
Dividends & capital gains      49*                     49*
------------------------- ------- ------- ------- -------
Tax affected by rate cut      927                     904
Revenue loss of 20% cut       185                     181
Alternative minimum tax        23                      23
Investing tax cut              15*                     15*
------------------------- ------- ------- ------- -------
Static revenue loss           223                     219
Dynamic revenue loss          190*                    186*
========================= ======= ======= ======= ======= =======
Home mortgage interest        421     199      67
State and local taxes         252     184     113
Real estate taxes             168      88      36
Contributions deduction       158      99      59
Other itemized deductions     206      67      30
------------------------- ------- ------- -------
Total itemized deductions   1,204     637     305            636
Revenue gain at 30%                   191      91            191
Revenue gain at 25%|27%               159      82            159
=================================================================
Note: following are estimates of revenue loss not included above:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Estate tax elimination         21*
Phase in of deduction loss     15*
=================================================================
* estimated by Feldstein (else 2009 IRS data)

Sources: 2009 IRS Tax Data, Table 1.4, Sources of Income, Adjustments, and Tax Items
         2009 IRS Tax Data, Table 2.1, Sources of Income, Adjustments, Itemized Deductions
         Martin Feldstein's Wall Street Journal article, August 28, 2012
         Martin Feldstein's blog post, September 02, 2012
You can find an analysis of the numbers at this link. As the table and analysis show, it does not appear to be mathematically possible, much less politically possible, to pay for the Romney tax cuts by cutting deductions without raising taxes on the middle-class, something that Romney has pledged not to do.
7 posted on 11/03/2012 2:03:07 AM PDT by remember
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To: remember

The 1986 reforms were designed to be revenue neutral but there was a modest short run loss in revenue ( about $10 billion, I recall) attributed to the reform. The Reagan reform did not cut the base for major sources of federal tax revenue (personal and corporate income). Many deductions and credits were eliminated or capped, and the result was a major simplification of the tax code for most of us. However, the special interests squealed and Congress subsequently unravelled many of the simplifications. A good book on the subject is Showdown at Gucci Gulch by Jeff Birnbaum and Alan Murray.


8 posted on 11/03/2012 7:21:50 AM PDT by riverdawg
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