Skip to comments.Jennifer Griffin: What laser capability did Benghazi team have?
Posted on 11/04/2012 4:34:00 AM PST by maggief
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So, if I’m understanding you right, because military forces were being readied for use in Benghazi, the President WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE ASKED FOR PERMISSION FOR MILITARY FORCES TO GO INTO LIBYA AND SINCE NONE WERE SENT, HE MUST, I SAY AGAIN, MUST HAVE DENIED THE USE OF AMERICAN MILITARY FORCES BEING SENT TO ASSIST AMERICANS IN BENGHAZI. There is no other possible explanation for why no American military forces were sent to rescue the 30 Americans under attack in Benghazi. Is this how you see it?
Now, President “Voting Present” might set up a phalanx of yes-men to keep generals with urgent requests from even finding him.
But the way the system is set up, as soon as the alarm from Benghazi goes out, the QRF in Germany (or anywhere the designated QRF is located that day) is put on alert, and even without orders from Washington, would be moved closer to the crisis to be ready faster when the POTUS gives the order to launch the rescue mission.
For Reagan or either Bush, this would have happened in real time. In the same span of minutes, the QRF in Germany (or whereever it is) is heading to C-17s or C-130s. They have contingency plans for exactly this scenario.
For Reagan or Bush, they might not even have needed to pause in Sicily, because they would have ordered them to head directly to Benghazi. This is one of their primary missions: to rescue a besieged American outpost under attack.
But if Obama pretends not to know, or not to hear, all he needs to do is NOT issue execute orders for a rescue mission with CBA.
He granted CBA for the OBL mission in Pakistan, he grants CBA when we put armed drones into Yemen etc to kill terrorists. He knows the deal.
But if he fails to grant CBA on 9-11-2012 for a Benghazi rescue mission, it can’t get off the ground, because it can’t enter Libyan air space.
The CIA assets in Tripolie (same distance to Benghazi as Sigonella) can be used on the orders of the acting ambassador or CIA staion chief, because they were already “in country” and not bound by the need to obtain CBA.
The 100+ Force Recon Marines in Sigonella should have arrived in Benghazi before the six CIA shooters from Tripoli, with F-16s and F-18s over Benghazi an hour earlier yet. But they can’t move unless POTUS affirmatively grants CBA and hands down execute orders for the MILITARY rescue mission, using forces outside of Libya.
He never granted CBA, or the White House would have shown the world copies of the orders. Then he could totally blame the military for failing to carry out his orders.
The logic prism says therefore no CBA was granted.
Yes, I know. My comment was strictly about this article and the lame defense the Obamites are making to avoid responsibility for their massive FUBAR ACTS.
You have answered your own question. The 'timeline' spin and the eyewitness accounts obviously do not coincide. Thus, the blocking of FN from the 'briefing'...
0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.
Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker
There are three scandals here...
Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.
The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.
ONE man had the authority to act that night.
ONE man deserted his post!
0bama was MIA. 0bama Is A Deserter!
This is the Tweet I’ve sent to every @TalkingHeadNewsPerson I can find.
@TalkingHead Obama did not grant Cross-Border Authority for a military rescue. CBA is the key to #Benghazi. PJMedia http://tinyurl.com/ctc3786
Very hard to get the word out. I thought PJ Media and Breitbart covering cross-border authority would do the trick. It seems to have stalled out. I keep hoping to hear about it on TV, haven’t yet. I tweeted @AmbJohnBolton, he is going to be on FOX at 1210 eastern to talk about Benghazi. I hope he brings up CBA.
OK. But only the President has the authority AND THE RESPONSIBILITY to order military forces into Libya to rescue the Americans under attack. I’m trying to reduce Obama’s wiggle room on this. And he is wiggling like a big old worm.
Panetta and Dempsey and Ham and Hillary and Petraeus had the authority and responsibility TO ASK that military forces be sent into Libya, but they did not have the authority TO ORDER military forces into Libya. That order could only come from Obama. So these five can use legalese and say they never turned down a request for military assistance because only Obama could give the order. And he could try to legal out of it by saying he never turned down a request for military assistance to Benghazi, he just ignored it or postponed the decision. BUT IT WAS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE THE ORDER TO SEND MILITARY FORCES INTO LIBYA. HE CAN’T EVADE HIS RESPONSIBILITY. He asked to be President. As a matter of fact, he’s working pretty hard now to keep his job. He wants the power and prestige and benefits of being the President, but he doesn’t want the responsibilities. That is just more evidence of what a dirty little money-grubbing Democrat grifter he is.
Foreign country + military op = POTUS approval.
It's so obvious even Homer Simpson knows the score.
We keep hitting it. It's all we can do.
Here's our freaking problem and it doesn't go away after an election...
Looks like the Benghazi CIA could have used one of these:
“US Army to fly Switchblade ‘kamikaze’ drones (airport defense against UAV attack?)”
Weighing less than two kilos, the drone is small enough to fit into a soldier’s backpack and is launched from a tube, with wings quickly folding out as it soars into the air, according to manufacturer AeroVironment.
Powered by a small electric motor, the Switchblade transmits video in real time from overhead, allowing a soldier to identify an enemy, the company said in a press release last month.
“Upon confirming the target using the live video feed, the operator then sends a command to the air vehicle to arm it and lock its trajectory onto the target,” it said.
The drone then flies into the “target,” detonating a small explosive.
I tweeted @AmbJohnBolton, he is going to be on FOX at 1210 eastern to talk about Benghazi. I hope he brings up CBA.
That is on right about NOW!
Dammit! If he said anything about CBA I missed it.
This link works:
“U.S. Army orders its first batch of suicide drones”
Soldiers who fly hand-launched drone scouts to spot enemies on the battlefield may soon get a deadly robotic device capable of also delivering a knockout blow. The U.S. Army has ordered its first batch of small suicide drones that are capable of launching from a small tube, loitering in the sky and then diving at a target upon command.
The backpack-size “Switchblade” drone and its launch tube give individual soldiers a new level of precise control over an explosive weapon. Rather than calling in supporting artillery fire or airstrikes, soldiers can simply launch the Switchblade from out of sight, confirm a target on a live video feed from the drone, and then command the robotic device to arm itself and fly into the target at high speed.
See also the link below, which I will put up as a thread:
That is so cool and I am so glad to be retired and not have to worry about things like this. All we had to worry about was making sure the spears were sharp and the troops had decent sandals.
I agree and I enjoyed reading you piece.
See new FR thread on the Switchblade backpack kamikazi micro-drone already combat tested in Afghanistan:
Yes, I agree with all of that, and it all fits my withheld-CBA theory as well.
I saw Bolton also, not a word on CBA. Yet.
Very frustrating. One word about CBA from someone like Bolton is all that is needed. Once that basic concept is out in the mainstream of the narrative it will douse every lie and excuse that 0bama has or could come up with. McCain or Graham could do it. No doubt Graham is aware of it being on the Senate Intelligence Committee and being a JAG officer.
That point is THE ONLY RELEVANT POINT there is until it is recognized and understood nationally. Everything else is a side issue until that occurs.
So, how close is the nearest chemical weapons site to the consulate? There are no armed drones over Libya except for the armed drones watching the chemical weapons sites in Libya.
Yeah, I got it now. What a tangled web we weave.
Gen. Hunt (Ret.) and former CIA operative Mike Baker mentioned that the Military did not get permission to enter into Libya.
1. WH knew in short order that the consulate was under attack.
2. WH had almost immediate eyes on the ground.
3. There was a very handy dandy map that showed where the F16s and the AC-130s were, where Delta Force was, etc. It conveyed how close our Military was to Benghazi. Most people don't have a clue were Libya is vis a vis Sigenalo.
4. The Military did not get permission. General Hunt, “All you needed was the order to “GO” and they were not given it.” Mike Baker nodded in agreement. (That is as close as you have gotten Travis McGee.)
5. Mike Baker and General Hunt cannot understand how the Military and the intel operatives can process how the WH can say they did not have enough info to allow a go order. They had a glutton of info.
6. Delta Force was moved from Stuttgart to Sigenalo, Charlie Co. 1st 10th Special Forces Group and Marine forward area support team were ready to go. Judge Jeanie reiterates that they did not get permission from the WH and that the military “doesn't need to pack their bag they just hit it.”
I think you need to email Judge Jeanie. She's pretty bright and on our side. She communicates well and I think you can get her to say “Only Obama, the POTUS, can give a CBA.” So far, the retired Generals and CIA operatives cannot clearly communicate that ONLY THE POTUS CAN GIVE A CBA ORDER. (sigh)
Obumber had a front row center seat.
He personally sentenced over 30 people to die by denying them help.
He didn't think anyone would have the audacity to disobey "STAND DOWN" nor does have any understanding of the bravery of men like those at Benghazi. But for those two heroes, over 30 people would have died at the hands of the Traitor in Chief...who issued his death sentence and then went calmly bed, having an early flight to Vegas to meet.
He answered the red phone in the middle of the night.
THEN HE HUNG IT UP!
He's not a 'deserter' - he's a TRAITOR and should be tried as such.
Her show site does not have the Hunt/Baker segment yet.
Programming note - live Hannity show on FNC tonight at 9:00 pm.
He turned his back on his post and walked away. I’d call that a deserter.