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1 posted on 11/05/2012 2:24:35 PM PST by Maceman
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yes


2 posted on 11/05/2012 2:27:39 PM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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I’m sure several on this site could tell you, but then they’d have to ... Well, you know.


3 posted on 11/05/2012 2:31:23 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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Turnout models.

The public polls are giving the ridiculous turnout models of 2008 and in some case, the Democrats outperforming that!

This is going to be a +R1-3 election, not a +D anything.

Independents are going to break hard for Romney, not Obama.

4 posted on 11/05/2012 2:32:20 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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The public polls are just advertising. The “Internal Polls” are actually paid for and their methodology is determined by the customer. So, they may or may not be more accurate, depending on what the buyer asks for.


5 posted on 11/05/2012 2:32:48 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Put me down for 350+)
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Well ... it’s “money” that makes them more reliable ... :-)


6 posted on 11/05/2012 2:33:04 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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No lib bias, no invalid interpretations, just the numbers and the facts gathered by experienced professionals who leave the smoke-blowing to the skewed media polls.


7 posted on 11/05/2012 2:34:59 PM PST by JPG (Make it happen)
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Fundamentally, the difference is that candidates want to win. They must deal with reality.

The other guys want to sell a product, whether it is the result of their “poll,” or, perhaps, airtime or advertising space in their news papers.


9 posted on 11/05/2012 2:41:53 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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Internal polls are most accurate because they don’t pander to political correctness of having to include a certain amount of black/hispanic/female/young voters.

Internals look at who is most likely to turn up at the polls. This was the whole reason Axelgrease made his bully-boy phone call to Gallup. He threatened Gallup with legal action because he said they were not representing the African American vote enough in their sample.

I noticed too that the lastest Pew poll methodology asked to speak to the YOUNGEST registered voter of the household...

So pollsters may not intend to over-represent Dims, but if they are having racial/other groups weighted, then this has a result of showing more Dims in the sample. (This is how Dick Morris explained it earlier today.)

Anyhow — NOW for a trip down memory lane. The Wisconsin Recall was ‘too close to call’. Ha! 49 Minutes after the polls closed, the race was called for Walker. His victory was 53-46. Enjoy this clip of Mizz Madcow and company eating crow...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pchwcD4IPzs


10 posted on 11/05/2012 2:44:58 PM PST by ShovelThemOut
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12 posted on 11/05/2012 2:46:54 PM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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These internal polls are no-BS products that give the candidates the unvarnished view of the facts on the ground. Romney`s internals reveal solid opportunities for victories.

BTW, has anyone else noticed the 0bama campaign hasn`t released theirs?


13 posted on 11/05/2012 2:51:03 PM PST by ScottinVA (Pray hard!)
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Internal polls are more accurate because campaigns use them to decide where they are going to spend their money. If you can’t get accurate polling you might be wasting money where it could be better spent elsewhere.


14 posted on 11/05/2012 2:58:36 PM PST by LiberConservative (Obama cannot shuck and jive his way out of Benghazi.)
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Presidential campaign internal polls are expensive and are done by the best and most experienced pollsters, using top notch staff, with the most reliable methods and large sample sizes. Above all, such polls are meant to be accurate.

On the other hand, public polls are done on the cheap, with smaller sample sizes, and are commonly performed by organizations and pollsters whose preferences influence the results.

16 posted on 11/05/2012 3:03:56 PM PST by Rockingham
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Scott Rasmussen has been asking exactly the same question, using the same polling methods for almost four years. His public polls give us a good yardstick to observe trends in public opinion. From reading his site, we don't know if he overstates or understates support for Obama, but we know how that support has changed in relative terms over time. That is the best of the public polls in existence.

Some private polls are generated to be leaked, and they are pure spin (garbage), of course. The high quality private polls do a better job on improving response rate and on modeling turnout than any of the public polls, but the details are proprietary.

21 posted on 11/05/2012 3:28:05 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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My guess is that, each campaign involved has to be doing more accurate polling, in order to insure that, they are not deluding themselves.

They’ll use any external polls that favor them to arouse the base and voters in general, but, it would be a lot more prudent to be truthful to themselves, therefore, they need to be more accurate in their polling. They can’t afford to not look at the true picture with the electorate’s feelings and intentions.


23 posted on 11/05/2012 4:58:11 PM PST by adorno
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