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Fox News added S Carolina to Electoral Vote Count (and now Georgia)

Posted on 11/06/2012 5:01:23 PM PST by georgiegirl

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To: PhilCollins; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; campaignPete R-CT; ...

Exuse me, NH-2 is dem not NH-1 though we lost that seat too just like in 2008. We can take 1 back in 2014. 2 I think is lost.

In 2008 that woman Che Porter was nobody, a random commie witch. She beat a popular RINO, Jeb Bradley. Pundits had the seat safe R, no one saw it coming.

New Hampshire used to be the most democratic New England state back when New England was Republican! It’s been the most Republican by far for a while now. But it’s following the rest, 2010 was a temporary move back to sanity. Sad. That was a once proud region.


61 posted on 11/07/2012 2:08:11 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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Excuse me again, Che Porter first won in 2006.

I’m signing off now.


62 posted on 11/07/2012 2:17:18 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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>> So Phil, you were dead wrong on IL. It was even worse than I thought. Your overall call of minus 10 looks spot on though if my math is right. Could be more. So good job though your reasoning was wrong. Thank goodness we won redistricting and halfway did a decent job with the House race <<

Yeah, Phil's predictions on Illinois were completely wrong, but his predictions on the national Congressional races were pretty accurate (albeit for the wrong reasons). I think the numbers nationally are pretty depressing... looks like we lost Allen West and almost lost Michelle Bachmann. If we have to lose some Republicans though, I hope this election cycle means we'll never see Mary Bono Mack or her hubby in politics again (and buh-buh Bob Dold after your "I'm my own man and independent-minded" persona from 2010 turned out to mean "I'm a clone of Mark Kirk and will follow his lead on everything, including voting far-left on abortion and claiming its socially moderate").

Biggert WAS a huge shocker though. I would have guessed 52% Biggert - 47% Foster, and probably 59% Biggert under the old district lines. I even endorsed some pro-life candidate running a write-in campaign because I figured "well, she'll win anyway now that Foster's been exposed as a wife beater, so might as well cast a protest vote)

I also think it's hilarious how the RATs shot themselves in the foot with the California redistricting and accidentally turned those seats competitive. If they're doing this poorly when Obama wins the state handily, imagine how they'd be doing if we had a hugely popular GOP candidate at the top of the ticket. That might be the one ray of sunshine, especially since California is demographically where the rest of America is headed (the racial "minorities" are the majority) and the GOP is still holding their own in a lot of those seats

At least I won't have to eat crow and apologize to McMahon and Akin supporters for saying we'll lose if they're the Republican candidate in the November. Akin supporters will probably still say it's the fault of the "GOP establishment" though.

Fortunately, I didn't make many predictions this year, especially with the Presidential races since most of the polls were all over the map. The only firm things I said about the Presidential contest was that Republicans were delusional to think they'd win the "Jewish vote" (I predicted Obama would easily win the "Jewish vote" with about 2/3rds of Jews overall, down from his 78% in 2008) and I said Democrats were delusional to think Arizona was "in play" and that Romney would carry it easily and Sheriff Joe would win a sixth term no matter much they blasted him and spent money trying to take him out.

Pretty sure the numbers will show I was spot on with both predictions on the presidential race.

63 posted on 11/07/2012 10:09:23 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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>> People like Dick Morris, well, he has some ‘spaining to do. <<

Dick Morris ALWAYS makes the wrong prediction (said Herman Cain was unstoppable in this year's primary, said the 2008 presidential election be Hillary vs. Condi, etc.) Ditto with Michael Moore (said George H.W. Bush would crush Clinton "worse than Dukakis, said Wesley Clark would win the RAT nomination and defeat George W. Bush in 2004, etc.) Unfortunately, Moore predicted this year that "Obama supporters better get used to saying the words 'President Romney'")

So both of them continue to have unblemished track records on being wrong. Pray that Morris and Moore will be predicting RAT landslides in 2014 and 2016.

64 posted on 11/07/2012 10:26:22 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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All these posts tonight and the past few months claiming Rs will win big accomplished NOTHING . Wishing is NOT doing it.

I'm as guilty of this as anyone.

In the end the American people saw Barack Obama as the best man to lead this nation.

God only knows the bad things they thought Romney would do, that would be worse than what Obama has been doing.

One take-away from last night, is that the American public think people who are savvy in business, are not to be trusted.

Can't wait to see how this impacts new jobs.

65 posted on 11/07/2012 10:30:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama 07/12/2013: Things are tough, but the prior administration handed me a terrible situation.)
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Which conservative should oppose Bill Foster, in 2014? I can’t think of anyone who should run. I hope that Will Co. has a conservative state’s attorney, circuit court clerk, coroner, or recorder of deeds. They were elected to four-year terms, this week, so one of them can run for a higher office, without giving up his or her current position.


66 posted on 11/07/2012 11:28:43 AM PST by PhilCollins
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Some are talking about Sen Kelly Ayotte as a future candidate for president or vice president but considering how far to the left it looks like NH has gone, is it possible she won’t even get reelected in 2016??


67 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:19 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
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Dold: I don’t have a problem with Dold’s voting record. See NRTL web site. Considering his district, he was fine.

McMahon: Shays is a lifelong NARAL guy who is vicious about it. Attacks on pro-lifers, etc. So Shays is good, Dold bad?

NARAL GOPers Bass-NH, Tisei-MA, Roraback-CT, Obsitnik-CT ... all 4 went down to defeat. Excellent work, my fellow pro-lifers!!!


68 posted on 11/07/2012 4:46:03 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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>> 92% in in ND, HEIDI is up by 3 K. 3 k. Boy do I have egg on my face on that one. Christ. Romney winning the state by 20 points as I expected. I want to hear from the retards who want Obama out but his girlfriend Heidi in. Democrats vote straight ticket for the most part. Stop being retarded rural white people. <<

There was always a voice in the back of my head saying "WARNING! RAT could take ND!!!" whenever I saw the poll numbers, but I dismissed it because I had a hard time picturing a RAT winning in a state like that. Scott Brown 2010 in reverse, and Rick Berg was no Martha Coakley.

I initially dismissed Heidi's rise in the polls as purely due to name ID, she was a pretty high profile A.G. for the state and she ran the only competitive governor's race in decades. Still, she was a RAT and I figured Berg would tie her to Obama and that would be the end of her. When she was STILL doing well in the polls by October I began to be alarmed. It reminded me of George Allen '06 when conservatives in VA laughed off all the polls showing Webb could win until it was too late. I said I can't believe we have to pour resources into ND if we're doing well in Senate races in RAT states like Hawaii and Conn. But then some poll came out showing Berg had surged ahead and I breathed a sign of relief.

Well, now we have Heidi, and I should have known better since ND has inexplicably elected liberal RAT Senators before, in fact she was running for the seat of a retiring RAT so it's not even a net-gain for the RATs. There is a real disadvantage with our side nationally because voters in super GOP areas (the Dakotas, Kansas, Nebraska, etc.) are willing to split their tickets and occasionally elect a "good" Democrat, but voters in super RAT areas (San Francisco, Chicago, New Jersey, etc.) will blindly vote straight RAT for legislative offices and won't even consider a RINO turd who acts like a Democrat anyway. The union thugs and minorities want to destroy anything and everything with an "R" next to its name.

Ditto with the ideological battle, I love how Republicans running in RAT majority areas are constantly lectured by the mainstream media and their own party that they "have to" to be RINOs and agree with the Dems on everything to be "electable", but the reverse is NEVER true for RATs running in extremely conservative states. Heidi Heitkamp didn't run around telling everyone she believed in protecting unborn babies, loves guns, wants to deport every illegal, worked great with GWB, etc., but RINO slime like Bob Dold were sure to talk about how much they love abortion, gun control, tree hugging, and being "bipartisan" with Obama when they run in RAT majority areas.

And speaking of George Allen, that was one Senate race I DID have a nagging "we will lose" gut feeling, but didn't want to lower morale so I kept it to myself. The question was whether George Allen's "comeback" six years later would give us the 1994 kick-butt George, or the bumbling 2006 George. As far as I can, the Macaca version showed up in 2012. I can't believe he lost to the eyebrow, and since Romney carried Virgina, you can't blame the top of the ticket, George Allen must have performed BEHIND Romney throughout the state.

I think perhaps the worst one was the ultra-liberal "elect me because I'm a lesbian" Baldwin won in Wisconsin. Liberals are sure gloating about that one, and I'm not surprised after Walker kicked their butt twice. I can't believe Tommy Thompson lost to that witch.

Let's face it, we really suck at winning Senate seats. Aside from Bob Kerrey getting buried (and everyone saw that one coming a mile away, Kerrey was basically forced at gun point to be the RAT nominee), there were no positives in the Senate contests. Winning a one-party GOP state with Ted Cruz doesn't count, that was a "contest" in name only.

69 posted on 11/07/2012 10:17:37 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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I am not optimistic about winning back any of the IL seats we lost other than 8th, the most Republican of them. Red Bill Enyart will probably hold the 12th till he dies as well. We could made that seat ours by splitting the South Chicago area three ways or something. Alas.

Any good state legislators in the Foster district? I always look to them first. And prominent county officials. I don’t know the local players.


70 posted on 11/12/2012 12:49:09 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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Moore also said

“he believes that if the election were conducted “American Idol”-style, and Americans were able to vote from their couches, Obama “would win hands down.”

I have to agree with him there. Shudder. He’d end up with 150% of the vote.


71 posted on 11/12/2012 12:53:21 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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It was worse than I thought in NH, GOP lost the State House, kept the Senate 13-11.

We can take it back and CD-1 in 2014, but can we hold them?

Ayotte is popular, she won with 60% in 2010 and will start off as the favorite. But given that 2016 is a Presidential year she cannot be considered safe.

Since 1996 GOP has won the NH Governor seat just once, Craig Benson in 2002, and he was thrown out on his ass in 2004 for some stupid reason. The 2 rat Governor Shaheen and Lynch have been extremely popular, doubtlessly the new rat dragonlady will be as well.


72 posted on 11/12/2012 2:19:02 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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92% in in ND, HEIDI is up by 3 K. 3 k. Boy do I have egg on my face on that one. Christ. Romney winning the state by 20 points as I expected. I want to hear from the retards who want Obama out but his girlfriend Heidi in. Democrats vote straight ticket for the most part. Stop being retarded rural white people.

Go to the ND Secretary of State webpage and look at the election results, then tell me which one just doesn't fit.

Something stinks there.

I know Heidi had a wad of slick (misleading) ads which bombarded mailboxes and media, but someone who takes money from the very anti-fracking people who want to stop the oilfield in its tracks is no friend of ND.

Who would cross ticket for that?

73 posted on 11/12/2012 2:36:51 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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Well, now we have Heidi, and I should have known better since ND has inexplicably elected liberal RAT Senators before, in fact she was running for the seat of a retiring RAT so it's not even a net-gain for the RATs.

Go back and look at the map. "North Dakota" didn't elect Heidi, Cass County and the East side (which has no oil reserves) did. Judging from the hit pieces in the Fartgo Forum, they'd be ecstatic to see Heidi make her anti-fracking donors happy and shut down the oil boom in the west, even though even Fargo has been benefitting from the revenue going to the state..

One of the more misleading ads had Berg blamed for traffic and the highway construction mess in the west, but we'd been trying to get Highway 2 expanded to a 4-lane from the last missile silo access roads to the Montana Border (roughly where 3/4 of the oilfields are going east to west) since Burdick was in office, and we've finally gotten passing lanes in 85 with three lanes in places, and absolutely incredible heavy truck traffic.

Anyway, it's a sad day, because without a Republican Senate, there can be no meaningful halting the juggernaut unless the House grows a pair. Still, being unable to pin the Obamites to a budget (like they haven't had since when???) makes any resistance tougher.

74 posted on 11/12/2012 3:06:01 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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Jim Oberweis’ new senate district inlcudes part of the new 11th Congressional Dist., but he probably won’t run for a higher office, so soon. I hoped that Will Co. would have a conservative state’s attorney, coroner, circuit court clerk, or recorder of deeds, since they were elected to four-year terms, last week. They could run for a higher office, without taking a chance of giving up his or her current office. I heard that Democrats won all of those offices. I hope that Marty Ozinga will run. He’s a conservative who ran for U.S. rep., in the 11th Dist., in 2008. He lost partly because he was nominated almost three months after the primary.


75 posted on 11/12/2012 4:45:24 AM PST by PhilCollins
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>> Jim Oberweis’ new senate district inlcudes part of the new 11th Congressional Dist., but he probably won’t run for a higher office, so soon. <<

Oberweis finally winning an office this election cycle should be a lesson, but one that the self-proclaimed "conservative leaders" in this state probably won't notice: if you lose for a major office, you should start smaller and work your way up. Oberweis would have been State Senator four years ago if he had simply endorsed Lauzen and waited for the seat to open up, instead of running a scotched earth primary campaign against him for Congress.

A bunch of our self-proclaimed "conservative leaders" are convinced that someone who has never held office before is magically "electable" to the highest office in the land, simply by virtue of "having money", so they keep running unknown millionaires and getting their clocked cleaned. They seem to think that every clueless political novice they find will be the next Ron Johnson. This should make the Adam Andrejewski fan club (many of whom are also members of the Jim Oberweis fan club) think twice about running Adam for a huge statewide office in 2014, and instead get his feet wet at the local level first so he gets some political clout. Sadly, they won't take the hint. The fan clubs of these millionaire "businessmen" are convinced that running for local office first is a task for us mere mortals and their heroic LEADERS needn't bother with such formalities.

>> I hoped that Will Co. would have a conservative state’s attorney, coroner, circuit court clerk, or recorder of deeds, since they were elected to four-year terms, last week. They could run for a higher office, without taking a chance of giving up his or her current office. <<

I heard (but haven't read the statistical breakdown) that the results in Will Co. were terrible, and RATs took half the seats on the county board. I did look at the county-by-county map of the Presidential election, and it looks like Obama took DuPage, Will, and Kane (WTF... Kane Co. is heavily Republican), so it's not surprising we got crushed in suburban Cook County with those kind of numbers. Obama seems to have done almost as well as he did in 2008.

>> I heard that Democrats won all of those offices. I hope that Marty Ozinga will run. He’s a conservative who ran for U.S. rep., in the 11th Dist., in 2008. He lost partly because he was nominated almost three months after the primary. <<

Ozinga is not very telegenic, but he is a classy, down to earth guy, does an incredible amount of goodwill and charity work for the community through his company, and is a solid conservative. PhilCollins pretty much nailed why he lost though -- he was an 11th hour replacement candidate for Congress after Tim Baldermann dropped out, and he didn't even live in the 11th District (I believe he was in the 1st District). It's not surprisingly he lost to Halvorson with Obama at the top of the ticket in 2008. That's another race that was blown because our candidate decided to bail on us AFTER winning the primary and we had to scramble to find a replacement (I'm really sick of candidates doing that). Interesting trivia: Marty Ozinga's uncle, Frank Ozinga, was state Senator for my area back in the 1970s (that was long before my time, and when southwest suburban Crook County was mostly Republican instead of the RAT infested region it is now, so don't ask me what it was like). I think Marty Ozinga Jr. has potential, the problem is finding the right time and place he could win. Unfortunately, the areas where he's best known (there's a street two blocks down from me named "Hon. Frank & Marty Ozinga Dr.", after his uncle and father) are one-party RAT turf now. :-(

76 posted on 11/12/2012 11:53:05 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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I agree about Adam Andrzejewski. In Jan. 2010, I walked five precincts, for him. Since he lost, I think that he should run for a lower office before his next statewide race. Last Wed. or Thurs., I posted a facebook wall-to-wall comment, on his wall. I asked him to run for Hinsdale village trustee, in 2013. I didn’t see a response.


77 posted on 11/12/2012 12:02:03 PM PST by PhilCollins
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I was surprised by the sizeof the curb stomping Ozinga received in 2008 but I agree you can’t judge him by that.

I hope Oberweis never runs for higher office again and that Adam A never runs for office period. He’s smarmy.


78 posted on 11/15/2012 9:48:16 PM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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>> I was surprised by the size of the curb stomping Ozinga received in 2008 but I agree you can’t judge him by that. <<

Ironically, Ozinga '08 might have been the ONE time in the past 10 years they recruited a wealthy businessman without past political experience that was both down to earth and likeable (not counting guys like Bobby Schilling who aren't exactly racking in cash). He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got clobbered. I'm suprirsed the self-proclaimed conservative "leaders" in Illinois didn't find yet another bored zillionaire to run for office here in 2012. They clearly haven't learned their lesson from the Patrick Hughes blowout, and never will.

>> I hope Oberweis never runs for higher office again and that Adam A never runs for office period. He’s smarmy. <<

Hopefully he stays in his safe Senate seat for a while. I never did find out if Chris Lauzen was elected Kane Co. Board Chairman after vacating that seat.

Good point about, Adam. His tone (basically "I am God's gift to Illinois") really irks me even he says something I whole-heartedily agree with. And his fan club creeps me out, it's a Ron Paul/Obama '08 level of devotion, except they're all mainstream conservatives. Adam groupies make the Perrybots seem rational:


79 posted on 11/16/2012 12:11:44 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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“I never did find out if Chris Lauzen was elected Kane Co. Board Chairman after vacating that seat.”

He won.

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20121106/news/711069486/


80 posted on 11/16/2012 4:37:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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