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Democrats get supermajority in (California) Legislature - (Say Goodbye to Prop 13)
SF Chronical ^ | 11/7/12 | Marisa Lagos

Posted on 11/07/2012 10:52:48 AM PST by So Cal Rocket

California Democrats appear to have picked up a supermajority in both houses of the state Legislature Tuesday night, a surprise outcome that gives the party the ability to unilaterally raise taxes and leaves Republicans essentially irrelevant in Sacramento.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Democrats-get-supermajority-in-Legislature-4015861.php#ixzz2BZ1jgHgh

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; prop13; proposition13; supermajority
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The Donkeys will have a 2/3 majority in both the California Assembly and California State Senate.

They can raise taxes, override vetos, bypass legislative rules, and put constitutional reforms on the ballot now without a single GOP vote. The GOP, which has been dying in this state, is now officially irrelavent in California.

Proposition 13, which limits the amount of property taxes that can be collected, can now be overturned in the California Legislature.

1 posted on 11/07/2012 10:52:52 AM PST by So Cal Rocket
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To: So Cal Rocket

I think its time for me to leave California..this state is DONE..Ronald Reagan loved California, had his library built here, but he’s weeping from heaven right now..seeing his beloved California flushed down the drain


2 posted on 11/07/2012 10:55:13 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: So Cal Rocket

If there are any conservatives left in CA, they really should get out now before their property is plundered by the vote-buyers. Just don’t go to a Red State and try to peddle any Leftist ideas, please.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 10:55:21 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: So Cal Rocket

How many *productive* people will be driven out of the state of Prop 13 is repealed? I’d wager that it would be many.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 10:55:44 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Well California is now truly the Liberal Utopia. We’ll see how well they do over the next few years.

I have money on they won’t last 6 months without a Federal bailout.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:24 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

We have been in the middle of a probate court battle for almost 2 years and because of that have not been able to leave. It is almost over, thank goodness, and when we win which we will we will be gone.
We are getting older and sick of fighting. Hubby is looking at SouthWest Missouri and at this point I don’t care where it is as long as it is in the middle of fricken nowhere.
We will watch California crash and burn from our safe little acreage in another state.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 10:58:21 AM PST by sheana
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To: So Cal Rocket

It will be interesting to see how quick California self-destructs.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 10:58:43 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Business has been leaving at the rate of 5 per week, look forward to a triple figure very soon. The wealth (other than Hollyweird) will find a more friendly place to call home. The last taxpayer to leave Please turn out the lights as there will not be anyone here to pay the bill.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 10:59:35 AM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: So Cal Rocket

We left California last year because we could see the writing on the wall. Last night I kept telling myself “at least we don’t live in California anymore.”


9 posted on 11/07/2012 11:00:09 AM PST by kemathen7
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To: So Cal Rocket

This is the one that bothers me the most. The GOP is utterly dead here.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 11:01:06 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: So Cal Rocket

I give us 20 years before America itself is in the exact same spot.

Of course, I am a bit of an optimist.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 11:01:06 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: So Cal Rocket

All California conservatives need to leave that sinking ship
ASAP and let those rats wallow in that liberal catastrophe of
a state.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 11:01:22 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: txrefugee
"Just don’t go to a Red State and try to peddle any Leftist ideas, please."

Too late. You saw what happened in Colorado.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 11:02:40 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: txrefugee
Just don’t go to a Red State and try to peddle any Leftist ideas, please.

Glenn Beck was telling folks to leave blue states, ASAP. He suggested Oklahoma - even though he recently moved to Texas ;) I thought that was kinda funny.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 11:02:55 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: So Cal Rocket

The communist’s will be squealing like stuffed pigs when their property taxes skyrocket! Can’t wait!


15 posted on 11/07/2012 11:03:02 AM PST by notaliberal (We are all communist's now!)
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To: sheana
We have been in the middle of a probate court battle for almost 2 years and because of that have not been able to leave. It is almost over, thank goodness, and when we win which we will we will be gone

We've been here since last December dealing with my MIL's estate...we just finally got the property retitled with the exemption in place... took some doing. We have major life decisions in front of us now.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 11:04:17 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: So Cal Rocket

This is what happens when moderates take over the Republican party, Democrats win.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 11:10:19 AM PST by RginTN
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To: So Cal Rocket

If it weren’t for the very few conservatives trapped in that state, I would simply laugh at this.

However, the Bible says that charity never rejoices when evil triumphs, so for that reason, too, I will restrain myself.

Nevertheless, whatever my emotions are or are not about this, the taxpayers of California are going to suffer and it won’t really solve the problem. There will be a never ending increase in tax followed by a loss of revenue until there is nothing left to tax. Liberal parasites are just that stupid.

Another reason to not gloat is that this is the future of all of us. The liberal parasites in Washington will suck their host dry too.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 11:10:19 AM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

They have been blaming the Republicans for years for their inability to handle the deficits.

Well, all the excuses are gone. It’s time to fish or cut bait.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 11:14:40 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: comebacknewt
I give us 20 years before America itself is in the exact same spot.

It's there now just haven't hit Americans yet.

20 posted on 11/07/2012 11:15:08 AM PST by Logical me
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To: notaliberal
The communist’s will be squealing like stuffed pigs when their property taxes skyrocket! Can’t wait!

Nah... they just need one of their favorite lib celebrities to remind them it's for the common good.

21 posted on 11/07/2012 11:16:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Liberals in Mass. have been salivating over the idea of undoing Proposition 2 1/2 for decades. They will be looking at this and drooling will commence.

I used to dream about moving to New Hampshire, but after last night I don’t know anymore. I think liberal Massholes have polluted that state too.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 11:18:50 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Free Republic is headquartered in California. Half this state is red - it’s just that the blue half has most of the voters.

The overturning of Prop 13 will be the final nail in the coffin of California real estate. Nobody not uber-wealthy will be able to own a home here. Say goodnight, Gracie.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 11:20:34 AM PST by Argus
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

***Too late. You saw what happened in Colorado. ***

Forty years ago the most common bumper sticker in Colorado was..”DON’T CALIFORNICATE COLORADO!”

Well, they have, and taken my beloved New Mexico with it.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 11:22:10 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

We deserve what we have done to ourselves. I have lived here all of my 57 years, except for the summer of ‘76 I spent in D.C. I haven’t the means to leave. I will die here.
BTW, I subscribe to the Southern California Rocket Association (SCRA) Yahoo Group, but have never been to a launch.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 11:22:42 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: kemathen7

That’s exactly what I’m telling myself. I’m just afraid that Obama will bail out the pensions for CA and IL and we’ll pay for it anyway.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 11:25:07 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Some wealthy benefactor should arrange for a suitable and safe repository outside of California for Ronaldus Magnus' papers.

Btw, last American out of there must pull the plug on the aquaducts. Those people should not be getting American water rights!

27 posted on 11/07/2012 11:26:19 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jane Long

Stuff Beck........


28 posted on 11/07/2012 11:27:05 AM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Jane Long

Possibly suggested OK because TX will probably go purple in a few years and then eventually blue.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 11:31:31 AM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: So Cal Rocket

So...anyone want to place bets on how long before California collapses?


30 posted on 11/07/2012 11:38:19 AM PST by Cato in PA (May America reap the rotten fruit of the demon seed it's sown.)
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To: Argus

I live in Los Angeles so I have been living under Socialism for a very long time now..last night was the final straw..seeing people actually vote to raise taxes..this state is down the drain..I know, half the state is red but the counties with the largest population are extremely liberal..SEIU is headquartered in LA they have a huge presence here..if I had a good paying job somewhere else I would have left LA a long time ago..but I dont know where to go. I have always wanted to live in Texas, or maybe Alabama..it would be nice for once in my life to know how it feels to live in a red state


31 posted on 11/07/2012 11:39:52 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: AppyPappy
Well, all the excuses are gone. It’s time to fish or cut bait.

Come now -- when did a liberal ever fail to find someone else to blame for their own failures? The logical choice in this case is *former* Republicans in the Legislature who created an inherited mess. Sound familiar?

32 posted on 11/07/2012 11:46:45 AM PST by Bernard Marx (<A>)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Exactly. My husband is a CA native, I’m a CO native. When we moved to CO from CA last year, he was looking forward to a more conservative place. He’s stewing today.

This is not the CO of my youth.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 11:48:20 AM PST by kemathen7
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To: So Cal Rocket

I don’t think the legislature can overturn Propositions without another proposition. They can certainly raise income taxes, however (and they will.)


34 posted on 11/07/2012 11:49:04 AM PST by Smogger
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To: All

I kind of laugh as I read all this tripe.

For the last twenty years I and others have been trying to explain what illegal immigration was going to result in.

Look at the vote totals last night. Look how few popular votes we lost by.

Now, try to understand the impact that legalizing millions of illegal immigrants, which is taking place as we talk here, is having on our nation.

We had ten million illegals here in 2000. We had about two million coming over each year during the Bush administration. Today they still talk about there only being ten million illegals in the nation today. You do the math. Would ten million former illegals now voting making it a better nation?

Be very careful about trashing California and urging it be jettisoned. Your state is next.

In the year 2000, I traveled to Washington, D. C. While there I picked up a copy of the Washington Post. I did because of the headline. In the prior decade, the illegal immigrant populace had gone up 300%.

Who knew this nation would turn into Mexico del Norte. Well, some of us did. Who’s laughing now?

Laugh at Californians all you like. The federal government failed to protect it from invasion. It is failing to protect you from invasion.

California, New Mexico, Colorado, a number of other places too, folks, what do they have in common?

We tried to tell you, and you called us xenophobes, reactionaries, and racists.

Well okay. Those of us who are still alive and asked you to join us to object to us being occupied, will now be able to sit back and watch you sink on board the same ship.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 11:49:42 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama 07/12/2013: Things are tough, but the prior administration handed me a terrible situation.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Good. Cali will go down the tubes that much sooner and americans will get to see what the democrats and socialists have in store for the rest of the country. Hopefully before it is too late.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 11:52:13 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
USA as a whole won't be far behind. This is what happens when the Left gets a foothold. They eventually take over all power and eliminate all competition and opposition.

USA is the new California is the new USSR. Pooty sent that submarine to our east coast to taunt us with the "checkmate" the global Left just called on America.

37 posted on 11/07/2012 11:53:58 AM PST by Publius Maximus (It was a nice Republic, while it lasted.)
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To: sheana

Check out southeastern OK also. Similar geography and even more conservative than MO.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 11:55:10 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Forty years ago the most common bumper sticker in Colorado was..”DON’T CALIFORNICATE COLORADO!”

I think it's naive to put the all blame on Californians. There was a *huge* migration of hippies and rich East Coast liberals to Colorado to take part in the 1960s' "Rocky Mountain High." The "Aspen Effect" has polluted most of the formerly conservative West with big-city liberalism.

39 posted on 11/07/2012 11:59:06 AM PST by Bernard Marx (<A>)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Give California back to Mexico. We can afford to prop them up anymore.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 12:02:01 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: smokingfrog

I visit that whole area every 6 mnths. Have family in Arkansas and Oklahoma. I don’t like Oklahoma as well as I do Northwest Arkansas and Southwest Missouri. Was there in May and went up into the Table Rock Lake area of Missouri. Not by Branson but the southwest side. Loved it. So it will either be there or around the Jasper area of Arkansas.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 12:03:57 PM PST by sheana
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To: So Cal Rocket

That is not all of the bad news in California. Proposition 39 passed. Prop 39 is a another tax increase on businesses with money going to “green energy.” Prop. 30 passed, it is for a “temporary” tax increase. San Diego will have the worst mayor in history, former U.S. Representative fish face Bob Filner. He is red diaper baby stooge of the labor unions. It also looks like Congressman Bilbray is going down to another union stooge named Scott Peterson. I keep pinching myself. I want to believe this is not real. This is a nightmare.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 12:04:46 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: sheana
Hubby is looking at SouthWest Missouri

East Tenn. is a wonderful place to live
and quite Laissez-Faire

43 posted on 11/07/2012 12:05:05 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

I have loads of family in Oklahoma and Arkansas. Main reason that area is a draw.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 12:07:20 PM PST by sheana
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To: txrefugee
If there are any conservatives left in CA, they really should get out now before their property is plundered by the vote-buyers.

Run, don't walk. Do not be the last white farmer in Zimbabwe.

45 posted on 11/07/2012 12:12:03 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Conservative Californians: PLEASE move to Ohio and Florida!


46 posted on 11/07/2012 12:20:31 PM PST by Phillyred
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To: So Cal Rocket

I hope conservatives living in California understand what this means. Get out, get out now. The state is about to tax you into oblivion. Move to a red state - preferably one with low minority population and try to ride out the storm. It isn’t really safe to move somewhere like Arizona or Texas either since those states will begin trending Democrat due to all the Hispanics. In a generation Republicans won’t even be able to win statewide in the lone star state. Unfortunately the kind of government you see in California will become the norm nationally at some point. The best we can do is find a decent red state that isn’t hosting a rapidly growing minority population and hunker down.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 12:32:40 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: So Cal Rocket
Proposition 13, which limits the amount of property taxes that can be collected, can now be overturned in the California Legislature.

I hope and pray they overturn Prop 13.

I have been trying to get out of this asylum for 11 years. My wife refuses to leave but if they scrap Prop 13 she'll go.

48 posted on 11/07/2012 12:34:00 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Excellence
I haven’t the means to leave. I will die here.

Kalifornia is not a good place to die. If it gets real bad, ask for help. Perhaps some Freepers can assist in some way. The cost of living in many locations in the heart of America can be 40 % less then the cost of living in Kalifornia. And you will need to lower your cost of living for whats coming.

Hey, maybe what we need is an underground railroad for Californian Conservatives. We shall help set you free.

49 posted on 11/07/2012 12:51:11 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: DoughtyOne

>Be very careful about trashing California and urging it be jettisoned. Your state is next.

This is actually the only good news that I have heard today.
Now maybe the state can collapse in good time to warn the rest of the world what a socialist wet dream really is.

My homeschooled children are learning Japanese & Chinese... go figure


50 posted on 11/07/2012 12:53:56 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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