[paratrooper82]

Voting “present” gives the liberals every thing they want, which will also give them credit for preventing the US from going over the fiscal cliff. Again, old media will shill for the liberals, e.g. “look how hard Obama worked across the isle to get a deal with the Republicans.” This approach will not work, since the debt will go from 16 trillion to 26 trillion “Republicans fault, e.g. Bush did it!”

The only option is for the Republicans (will take guts) to simply refuse to allow a single bill to come out of the US House of Representatives without first repealing Obamaycare, lowering taxes, and other economy supporting Bills. This would put the liberals in a catch 22 position, allow the government to default on its debt, or negotiate with the Republicans to pass their Bills.

Either way, the Republicans have nothing to lose, the liberals have EVERY THING TO LOSE. If the liberals allow the US to go off the fiscal cliff they have effectively hung the economy around their necks for many many years to come! The only other option is to give the Republicans what they want, they hold the purse strings for the US government!

[no-to-illegals]

I hear you, FRiend. If the democrats prevent us from going over the cliff, we survive anyway. Right? I'm betting the democrats will go crazy. Let ‘em drive. I know the cliff is there, but if I'm going over, I don't want the blame. So I am stepping out of the driver's seat.